[ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for Nov. 30th call

Michel Drescher Michel.Drescher at uk.fujitsu.com
Thu Nov 30 06:03:52 CST 2006


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Hiro, all,

sorry for the short notice.

I would like to, if possible, add to topic 2) Information Mdeling, a live
XQuery demo, which had to be postponed from the F2F meeting.

Cheers,
Michel

Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Nov. 30th.
> Thursday from 7am - 9am  (CST).
> 
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> 
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>    See more information:
>    - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477
> 
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>    URL:         http://ogsa.glance.net
>    Session key: 1130
>    See more explanation:
>    https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584
> 
> 1) Early discussion (20 min)
>          Note taker assignment
>          Roll call
>          Telecon minutes approval (if available)
>          Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
>          Agenda bashing
> 
> 2) Information/data modeling (Ellen and Fred, 40 min)
> 
>> Info model & Service Integration
>> ================================
>> - The group discusses the details of Profile work
>>   -- THere are diffferences in how the term Profile is actually used between
>>      different organisaitons such as DMTF, OGF, etc.
>> - Tom Maguire proposes to use the BES specification as an exmple and how to
>>   do serviice integration.
>> - Tom outlines the process how DMTF creates profiles 
>> - How does this impact OGSA-WG as of what to do next?
>>   -- Two options:
>>      --- Update the service model in DMTF (which is at best tangential if 
>>          not parallel to OGSA-WG work)
>>      --- Take the Container model and turn it into a normative specification
>>          ---- on a service interface and a profiled information model
>>   -- A new document is added to the list of group deliverables
>>      --- Information Model Profile: BES Container document, in style of DMTF
>>          ---- Ellen Stokes, Tom Maguire
>>          ---- No particular document type, rather a proof-of-concept
>>      --- Take BES as a protocol specification, and add an information model
>>          profile as message specification
>>      --- The document is actually a profile on the Information Model, with
>>          associated protocol binding documents.
>>   -- There needs explanation within the OGF community what this document effort
>>      assumes to produce
>>   - The group reaches consensus that this said document will probably inform 
>>     the "Information Modelling in OGSA" work effort, or even provide contents
>>     for this
> 
>          Ellen will write up first draft before the call.
> 
> 3) OGSA workflow discussion (Andrew, 40 min)
> 
> Minutes from Nov. 10 am F2F
>> <ASM> Can we propose that we have multiple approaches and how to do each of these?
>>  - <AG> Set up a design team to look into this?
>>   - Do we have consensus for this (design team)?
>>    -<DS> Should be short lived design team
>>    - <JU> Don't do the work just figure out what can be done
>>    - <ASM> Sort out what is out there and what could potentially be done
>>    - <AG> to lead
>>    - Initial deadline - preliminary report for January meeting
> 
>          https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14033
> 
> 4) Wrap up (10 min)
>          AOB
> 
> <*NEXT CALL*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477
> 
> Dec. 4  (Mon) <No call> Management Developer Conference
> Dec. 7  (Thu) <No call> GFSG F2F meeting
> Dec. 11 (Mon) EGA reference model(Hiro Kishimoto and Paul Strong)
>                Roadmap document (Chris Jordan)
>                EMS Arch scenarios document review (Andreas Savva)
> Dec. 14 (Thu) Information/data modeling (Ellen and Fred)
>                OGSA security (Alan Sill and Andrew Grimshaw)
>                OGSA workflow (Andrew Grimshaw)
> 
> <*ACTION ITEMS*>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1569
> 
>  > From Nov. 9 am F2F.
>      AI-1109am-a: Ellen and Tom will review the error code/faults issue
>                  further with a view to put a proposal forward to DMTF.
> 
>  > From Nov. 9 pm F2F.
>      AI.11.09.pm-a: Ellen and Tom to write up a "Information Model
>                     profile document: BES Container"
>      AI.11.09.pm-c: Andrew to produce a document drafting the definition
>                     of QoS
>      AI.11.09.pm-d: Andrew to contact the HPCP WG regarding future
>                     involvement to create profile(s) on, e.g. BES, JSDL
>                     etc.
> 
>  > From Nov. 10 am F2F
>      AI-1110am-a:   Ellen to look into WS-Policy and relationships to
>                     what has been defined so far
>                     Tom to Look at how to avoid overlap with WS-Policy
>                     group
> 
>  > From Nov. 2nd call.
>      AI-1102a: Hiro to ask whole group by email if it is OK to have
>                one-way (presentation only, no discussion)
>                SML session on future telecon.
> 
>  > From Oct. 30 call.
>     AI-1030a: Ellen will contact the DAIS-WG chairs and request they
>               arrange a review DSP0225
> 
>  > From Sept. 15 OGSA F2F
>    AI-0915d: Tom will post BP base faults issue to tracker
> 
>  > From Aug. 17 call
>    AI-0817a: Dave Berry and Jay Unger will approach groups (GIN,
>               Globus, etc) that have implemented practical grids and
>               start a discussion on how they handle data:
>               - how data is treated as a resource that can be scheduled
>               - how transfers are modeled
>               - how files are advertised
>               - how applications find files (query, by knowledge,?)
>               (Due Oct. 9)
> 
>  > From July 20 F2F
> - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to
>       contribute use cases.
> - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to
>       Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.
> 
> Postponed:
> Until next reference model call (Nov. 20):
>    AI-1023c: Tom volunteered to review Hiro's HPC Cluster use case
>              slides and make appropriate changes to indicate where the
>              CIM Profile would fit in and how it would link into the
>              Reference Model.
>    AI-1023g: Hiro will look at other parts of slide 5 and identify
>              further possible refinements of this use case.
> 
> Until next EMS call (Nov. 2):
>    AI-0914a (Andreas Savva): Integrate the simple Data scenario just
>             presented into the scenarios document
>    AI-0913a: Andreas to update function names of BES.
>    AI-0913b: Andrew to write-up a couple of such JM functionalities
>             (short paragraph for each, e.g. time constraint as JSDL
>              extension.)
>    AI-0913c: Andreas to add another scenario to use this �terminate�
>              method of activity interface.
>    AI-0913e: Andreas to separate un-deployment as a separate scenario.
>    AI-0913f: Andreas to describe relation between ACS and CDDLM.
>    AI-0913g: Donal to provide his proposal on
>              "ActivityExecutionCandidate."
>    AI-0831e: (A Savva) Talk to ACS working group for refining this
>                scenario.
>    AI-0831f: (A Savvva) Research RNS and probably update the EMS Arch
>                Scenarios document
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
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Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe
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