[ogsa-wg] Proposed agenda for June 29th call

[Hiro Kishimoto]

Hi all,

The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on June 29th.
Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am  (CDT).

Dial-in numbers for Thursday:
   Free: +1-888-452-0308
   Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505
   PIN:  71815

Screen share service will be provided.
   URL:         http://ogsa.glance.net
   Session key: 0629
See more explanation:
http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html

1) Early discussion (20 min)
         Note taker assignment
         Roll call
         Telecon minutes approval (June 22 & 29)
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13624?nav=1
         - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13628?nav=1
         Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)
         July F2F and GGF18 plan update (if any)
         Agenda bashing

2) CDDLM & EMS joint discussion (Jun and Hiro, 30 min)
         Jun and Hiro will send out revised material before the call.

minutes form July 12 call
>   - Reviewed Hiro's presenation and XML documents.
> 
>   - Jun pointed out that codebase is used incorrectly. It should be
>     used in the BLAST declaration not in the PosixApplication.
>   - Also it is not clear what the meaning of pre-script is. 
> 
>   ACTION: Hiro to talk with Chris Smith and clarify meaning of
>           pre-script
>   ACTION: Jun will correct the CDL XML examples written by Hiro.
> 
>   - What should be the granular unit of components?
>     - It may be better to define 'filesystem' or 'database' as
>       separate components since they may be re-usable in other
>       contexts. For example, they might be usable also by a 3-tier
>       application component.
>     - It was agreed that this kind of refinement is needed. But it is
>       not a showstopper for delivering the top level CDL for the EMS
>       sequence scenarios.
> 
>   - For the EMS scenarios the following CDL documents are needed:
>     - Original CDL from the repository;
>     - CDL modified by JM before submission to Deployment service
>       (portal)
>     - CDL after deployment (can be retrieved by JM to refine the JSDL
>       document)
>     [The deltas should be fairly small.]
>   - Some explanation on what the constructs in the CDL document mean
>     would also be useful since not everyone will have read the CDDLM
>     documents.
>   - Also highlighting what information (if any) is expected to taken
>     from the JSDL document and used in CDL (and vice versa)
>     - In the simplest case it is 'hostname' and path to the installed
>       executable.
>   - Andreas volunteered to review these CDL documents before the EMS
>     call to make sure they provide the expected information.

3) EMS scenarios (Steven and Andreas, 30 min)
       Andreas will send out revised scenario document before the call

> - EMS team (Steven, Andreas, Donal) to review data staging scenario
>   (section 5 of https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13591?nav=1 )
>   Bring to people's attention again at the next EMS call.
>   (postpone until June 29)
> - Add sequence diagrams to the scenarios: (postpone until June 29)
>     - Andreas will do the "Install application" scenario (3.1)
>     - Mike will do the "Install application using ACS" scenario (3.3)
>     - Other volunteers welcome. (Andreas will ask Donal for the EPS
>       scenario)
>     - Andreas has started doing the sequence diagrams in RSM
>     - Darren volunteered to help out
>     - Review again at the next EMS call (June 29)
> - Andreas will merge draft scenarios and sequence diagrams to the
>   "EMS Architecture Scenarios" document (postpone until June 29)

4) OGSA authorization call-out proposal review (Frank 20 min)
 >   - Frank is now consulting with people in GGF (David Chadwick, Von
 >     Welch) on whether his approach can be defined within the AuthZ
 >     group. If there is no agreement then he will accept the XACML
 >     group's decision.

5) Basic Security Profile Public Comments review (Takuya 20 min)
       Takuya will send out proposed text change before the call

Minutes from June 22nd call
>   Reviewed public comments and Takuya's proposed replies
>   1. Add text explaining that the Secure Channel profile is not
>      required by all ogsa services. The introduction is probably a
>      good place for this.
>   2. [Basic-Security-Profile] usage.  The term is defined in the
>      document. Takuya to check whether such special terms are used
>      consistently and that they stand out. Refer to the WSRF BP for a
>      similar example.
>   3. Ciphersuites: Agreed that it important to list acceptable
>      ciphers.
>      - As a first step Takuya will list up available ones (from the
>        WS-I BSP); select the ones that are in common use; and then
>        select the ones that are considered sufficiently safe.
>      - Review the list at the next BSP teleconf
>   4. Multiple keys in keyinfo field?
>     - Takuya to talk to Von in order to understand the use case for
>       multiple keys; and will propose a resolution at the next BSP
>       teleconf.

6) Wrap up
         AOB

<*NEXT CALL*>
July 3  (Mon): Independence day (no call)
July 6  (Thu): EMS scenarios (Steven and Andreas)
July 10 (Mon): Information model (Ellen and Fred)
                Roadmap 1.1 (Hiro, ChrisJ, and Jem)
                Security & BSP Public Comments review (Frank and Takuya)
                CDDLM & EMS (Jun and Hiro)
July 13 (Thu): F2F prep (Tom and Hiro)
July 17-20:    F2F meeting in Chicago (ANL)

Telecon schedule on wiki:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ogsa-wg/wiki/TeleconSchedule

<*ACTION ITEMS*>
 > From June 26 call
- Hiro to confirm contact with (ex-)EGA TC

 > From June 12 call
- Jun will correct the CDL XML examples written by Hiro.

 > From June 8 call
- EMS team (Steven, Andreas, Donal) to review data staging scenario
   (section 5 of https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13591?nav=1 )
   Bring to people's attention again at the next EMS call.
   (postpone until June 29)
- Add sequence diagrams to the scenarios: (postpone until June 29)
     - Andreas will do the "Install application" scenario (3.1)
     - Mike will do the "Install application using ACS" scenario (3.3)
     - Other volunteers welcome. (Andreas will ask Donal for the EPS
       scenario)
     - Andreas has started doing the sequence diagrams in RSM
     - Darren volunteered to help out
     - Review again at the next EMS call (June 29)
- Andreas will merge draft scenarios and sequence diagrams to the
   "EMS Architecture Scenarios" document (postpone until June 29)

 > From May 22 call
- Jay will contact Platform (Chris Smith) and Condor (Miron Livny)
   to get feedback on pros / cons of the two rendering approaches
   (postpone until June 19)
- Darren/Andreas will take the Modeling position paper and
   discuss it within the JSDL-WG as well (postpone until June 19)

 > From April 5 F2F meeting
- Marvin to send e-mail that explains concerns on compliance suite
   by GGF & EGA.

Deferred
- Frank to write up and send to the list a one page summary of
   the authorization call-out proposal.
   (April 24 call, postpone until June 14)
- Jay check and find out relatively small funding to Globus
   to develop document on their security work (April 6 F2F)
- Hiro to schedule a discussion in the OGSA F2F after the
   converged specs drafts are released to discuss which sets of
   specs to use within OGSA.  (April 4 F2F)
-- 
Hiro Kishimoto