[ogsa-wg] RE: GRIDtoday Edition: Tony Hey: 'Challenging Times for GGF & Standards'

[Dave Berry]

Hi Hiro,

I think these proposals don't address the same functionality as WSRF.
WS-Transfer may address part of WS-RP, but it doesn't support lifetime
management.  WS-Eventing is close to WS-BasicNotification.

WS-Enumeration seems more relevant to aspects of DAIS or even InfoD.  I
don't know whether those WGs have looked at WS-Enumeration.  I suspect
that many scenarios that could use WS-Enumeration will also need
lifetime management, which WS-Enumeration doesn't address. 

Dave.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto
> Sent: 01 March 2005 13:18
> To: 'Frank Siebenlist'
> Cc: 'OGSA-WG'
> Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] RE: GRIDtoday Edition: Tony Hey: 
> 'Challenging Times for GGF & Standards'
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> > Could anyone summarize MS' WS-view, and how it differs from WSRF?
> 
> As already discussed, it is almost the same functionality but 
> different
> way of rendering.
> 
> The following is the overview of their specification stack 
> (or silo :-)
> You can find Enumeration, Transfer, and Eventing.
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/webservices/default.aspx?pull=/libra
> ry/en-us/dnwebsrv/
> html/introwsa.asp
> 
> Hope it helps,
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Frank
> > Siebenlist
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:38 AM
> > To: Hiro Kishimoto
> > Cc: 'OGSA-WG'
> > Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] RE: GRIDtoday Edition: Tony Hey: 
> 'Challenging Times for
> GGF
> > & Standards'
> > 
> > Could anyone summarize MS' WS-view, and how it differs from WSRF?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks, Frank.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hiro Kishimoto wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >Absorbing article by Tony Hey.
> > >
> > >http://news.tgc.com/nview.jsp?appid=360&print=1#342708
> > >----
> > >Hiro Kishimoto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>                                GRIDtoday
> > >>             NEWS AND INFORMATION FOR THE GLOBAL GRID COMMUNITY
> > >>                    --- February 28, 2005: Vol. 4, No. 8 ---
> > >>           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>SPECIAL FEATURES
> > >>==============================================================
> > >>
> > >>[ ] M342708 ) WSRF? WS-*? Where is GGF's OGSA Headed?
> > >>              By Tony Hey, Contributing Editor
> > >>
> > >>  Tony Hey, director of e-Science for the Engineering and Physical
> > >>Science Research Council, continues to elaborate the need for open
> > >>standards in the realm of Web services-based Grid computing. He
> > >>discusses the great debate of WSRF vs. WS-*, and lays out 
> what the GGF
> > >>must do with OGSA in order to give e-Science application 
> developers
> > >>something to rally around.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > Frank Siebenlist               franks at mcs.anl.gov
> > The Globus Alliance - Argonne National Laboratory
> > 
> 
> 
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