[ogsa-wg] Teleconference minutes - 6 July 2005
Hiro Kishimoto
hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com
Sat Jul 9 19:39:54 CDT 2005
Hi all,
Although OGSA-WG do not have conscious intention, The following sentence
can be offensive to skillful hardworking GGF staff.
> In any case it seems a good idea
> to leave the planning up to a professional meeting planner like IDG.
Should read
"In any case it seems a good idea that GGF plans to work with a larger
group like IDG in order to leverage their staffing and scale, for
instance getting better hotel rates."
OGSA-WG owes them a great deal for what they've done for us.
----
Hiro Kishimoto
Andreas Savva wrote:
> Minutes attached.
>
> - F2F update
> - GGF14 review
> - WSRF BP review
>
> https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20050706/en/1
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> OGSA Teleconference - 6 July 2005
> =================================
>
> * Participants
>
> Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu)
> Fred Maciel (Hitachi)
> Mark Morgan (UVa)
> Takuya Mori (NEC)
> Andreas Savva (Fujitsu)
> Dave Snelling (Fujitsu)
> Latha Srinivasan (HP)
> Jay Unger (IBM)
> Pete Ziu (Northrop Grumman)
>
> Apologies: Mike Behrens
>
> Minutes: Andreas Savva
>
> * Minutes approval
>
> June 22 minutes approved with no comments
>
> * F2F Update
>
> Proposal is for the week of Aug 29 at SDSC
>
> - Jay may have a conflict that week and the week before (Aug 22)
> - Dave B also may have a conflict the week of Aug 29.
> - Mark is away from August 20.
> - Hiro cannot make week of August 22
> - Allen L might have travel restrictions so Santa Clara might be a
> better choice than San Diego.
>
> - Discussed alternatives:
> - Week after (Sep 5) is Labour week
> - GGF15 is the first week of October so it cannot be after Labour
> week
> - The week of Aug 15 was the only other alternative that most
> people on the call could identify.
> - But Hiro cannot stay the whole week; he would have to leave
> Friday.
>
> - Agreed that it is necessary to fix the dates soon since
> (especially) the week of Aug 15 is peak holiday season.
> - Since the meeting will include fellow WG sessions they should also
> be consulted.
>
> Action: Hiro will ask people for their availability and the group
> will make a firm decision by next call (Monday)
>
> * GGF14 evaluation
>
> - Not all presentations or minutes are on gridforge yet.
>
> Action: People who presented in OGSA-WG GGF14 sessions should put
> their presentations online.
> Action: Minute takers to put their minutes on gridforge.
>
> There was good attendance of OGSA sessions, but overall GGF14 seemed
> poorly attended---about 350 people compared with a typical
> 450. Also there did not seem to be a lot of press. (Usually it is
> not planned but some people turn up.) Allan W's article in Grid
> Today on OGSA was very good.
>
> One possibility for the low attendance might be the holiday season,
> and perhaps the location. Since the next GGF is co-scheduled with
> GridWorld it should be better attended. (But GridWorld is probably
> overlapping completely with GGF15.) In any case it seems a good idea
> to leave the planning up to a professional meeting planner like IDG.
>
> Working days were too long. Also the rooms were too big; could have
> subdivided them further and have more parallel sessions. Or do
> smaller slots: 45 minutes instead of 1:30 and allow for double
> slots.
>
> For OGSA-WG at GGF15 the plan is to have fewer sessions during GGF
> (mainly do outreach) and to do a f2f separately. Discussed venue
> options for this f2f.
> - The GGF hotel if rooms are available
> - The Lotus facility is fairly close
> - Hitachi facility is not far
>
> GGF16+ dates are not fixed yet but are likely to be close to the
> following dates:
> GGF16: Feb 20, 27
> GGF17: May 9-12
> GGF18: Sep 25-29
>
> Also it would be nice to have a simple way to import the GGF
> schedule into a pda etc.
>
> * OGSA WSRF BP 1.0 review
>
> Using the version that Latha sent out on the list.
> http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/07/msg00008.html
>
> - There are no open issues on Gridforge. Used the list that Hiro
> sent out. This list incorporates Latha's comments but not the
> security-related changes that Takuya and Frank made separately.
> http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2005/07/msg00006.html
>
> l90: 'open standard': Agreed to use the same terminology as in
> the profile definition.
>
> Action: On next pen holder.
>
> l213: E0302 claims extensibility elements for wsa:Metadata. Is
> extensibility for wsa:ReferenceParameters necessary?
> - Check and add if there is an extensibility element in the
> referenced spec.
>
> Action: On next pen holder.
>
> l222: R0311: Delete the 'subject to amendment' portion since this
> profile does not contain any amendments
>
> Action: On next pen holder.
>
> l339: (Latha's comment) We probably want to say something here about
> throwing the same faults that GetMultipleResourceProperties
> message does. Same comment for all other messages such as
> Destroy, Subscribe etc.
>
> - Not sure why faults are described for notification only. Tom
> authored this section.
>
> Action: Andreas to check with Tom whether there was a special
> reason for this or whether similar text should be added
> in other places
>
> l363: (Tom's comment) There are 2 specs need to chose which is
> appropriate. Still needs work.
>
> - Open.
>
> Action: Tom to follow up.
>
> l384: Scheduled Destruction should be added.
>
> - There is mention earlier on (l125) that the profile covers
> this functionality.
> - Agreed that it should be added to the BP.
>
> Action: On next pen holder.
>
> l394: (Jem and Latha's comment) Sentence rewriting.
>
> - Revision looks fine.
> - But the subsequent normative text does not make the
> distinction that the non-normative text makes. The normative
> sentences (R0511 & R0512) have to be checked and revised.
>
> Action: Latha & Andreas
>
> l412: (Tom's comment)Add MESSAGE reqt.
>
> Action: Latha to follow up with Tom.
>
> l450: (Hiro's comment) Don't we need extensibility points for Base
> Faults? I think we need to carry detailed fault information.
>
> - Some problem with the base faults specification. It will
> have to be fixed after public comment. (The schema will
> probably change and not have extensibility elements.)
> - Agreed to leave as is for now; review and tidy it up later.
>
> l463: Since there is no amendment in the Profile, should we delete
> this line?
>
> Action: Next pen holder to delete 'amendment' text.
>
> l566: Contributors and Acknowledgment sections
> - Reviewed and accepted Hiro's proposal.
>
> l620: WS-BN should be evolving before final submission.
> - Reference needs update once the CD versions are approved.
>
> Action: Hiro will update the master spreadsheet and Appendix F.
>
> ** Tracker review
>
> Reviewed 'resolved' issues:
>
> 1223: Fixed but need comment that the resolution was slightly
> different (Andreas to put comment in)
>
> 1227: Closed(obsolete)
>
> 1294: Leave as resolved until the versions are fixed.
>
> 1355: fixed
>
> ** Other discussion
>
> - Should the GGF copyright be included in the schemas?
> - Action: Hiro to ask GGF Editor (Greg) about it.
>
> - Namespace URI format?
> - There is a proposal to the GGF Editor but it is not formalized
> yet
> - Agreed to leave as is and wait for Greg's comment
>
> - Security fixed issues need to be verified
>
> - Some futher security modifications were done by Frank during a
> GGF14 session
> - Hiro is waiting for the draft from Frank.
>
> - Profile review will continue next Monday
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