[ogsa-wg] Initial draft of HPC profile working group charter

[Marvin Theimer]

Hi;

 

As I've said from the beginning, I view data transfer as being something
that can and should be able to stand separately.  So creating a separate
data profile certainly seems reasonable on first reflection.  However, I
would argue that the HPC profile will need to reference/incorporate that
profile in some manner since and end-to-end vertical profile for HPC is
meaningless without a data component to it.

 

We should definitely discuss this issue in the BoF.

 

Marvin.

 

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From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom at ierc.ox.ac.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Marvin Theimer; Dave Berry; ogsa-wg at ggf.org; dmis-bof at ggf.org;
ogsa-d-wg at gridforum.org
Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] Initial draft of HPC profile working group
charter

 

Hi Marvin,

>From reading most of the correspondence on this topic and from various
conversations about this with various people I was wondering if we could
actually launch a separate Data profile since tacking this onto the end
of the HPC profile could possibly prove limiting. I was wondering if the
data discussion would be a specific part of the BOF?

Regards

David


On 5/5/06 16:15, "Marvin Theimer" <theimer at microsoft.com> wrote:

Hi;
 
You are right that most of the discussion so far has been about job
submission and not about the related need to get data from client to
execution subsystem(s) and back again.  But since the goal of the group
is to define a profile covering the end-to-end vertical use cases, I
know that we will need to tackle the topic of data staging at some
point.  As with JSDL and BES's relation to the job submission parts of
the work, I'm hoping we will be able to substantially leverage other
existing work, such as that of the data DMIS groups, as appropriate.
I'll make that more explicit in the next revision of the draft charter.
 
Thanks for pointing this matter out,
Marvin.

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From: Dave Berry [mailto:daveb at nesc.ac.uk] <mailto:daveb at nesc.ac.uk%5d>

Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 7:14 AM
To: Marvin Theimer; ogsa-wg at ggf.org; dmis-bof at ggf.org;
ogsa-d-wg at gridforum.org
Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Initial draft of HPC profile working group
charter

Hi,

All the discussion I've seen about this profile so far has focussed on
specifying and submitting jobs, but the proposed charter says that this
is only one of two areas of interest; the other being data staging.  The
immediate question is what link will this profile work have to the Data
Movement Interface Specification group?  Will the profile refer to the
DMIS spec in the same way that it will refer to JSDL and BES?  (Of
course, JSDL also covers data staging to some extent).

Work is also continuing on the data aspects of the OGSA architecture, in
the OGSA Data WG.  I would encourage the HPC profile group to engage
with the OGSA Data group and the DMIS group concerning how to fit data
staging into the overall architecture.

Unfortunately I won't be in Tokyo next week but it would be useful if
members of these groups could get together there to agree a working
relationship.

Best wishes,

Dave.

	
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	From: owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org]
<mailto:owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org%5d>  On Behalf Of Marvin Theimer
	Sent: 05 May 2006 01:48
	To: ogsa-wg at ggf.org
	Subject: [ogsa-wg] Initial draft of HPC profile working group
charter
	Hi;
	 
	Enclosed is an initial draft of the OGSA HPC profile working
group charter.  This will be brought up for discussion at the HPC
profile BoF at the upcoming GGF17 conferenece in Tokyo.  In the mean
time, please feel free to comment on the draft via email to this mailing
list.
	 
	Thanks,
	Marvin.

 



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