[ogsa-hpcp-wg] File staging extension

[Andrew Grimshaw]

Sftp is fine, as is https, the point from my perspective is not to require
dealing with the delegation issue yet.

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> On Behalf Of Vesselin Novov
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:15 PM
> To: Marty Humphrey
> Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] File staging extension
> 
> 
> Marty,
> 
> Marty Humphrey wrote:
> 
> > I like a lot of the proposal. But one of the issues here is that none
> > of ftp, http, or mailto is secure. (Note: username/password ftp is
> > still cleartext - not INTO the BES service but rather from the BES
> > service to the FTP service)
> >
> Are you concerned with the inclusion of the username/password in the URI
> string in the JSDL or with the fact that the communication channels is
> unsecured.
> Even with the secured sftp we would need to add the username/pass to the
> sftp: URI string.
> 
> -Vesso
> 
> > -- Marty
> >
> > *From:* ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces at ogf.org
> > [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces at ogf.org] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Grimshaw
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:45 PM
> > *To:* ogsa-hpcp-wg at ogf.org
> > *Subject:* [ogsa-hpcp-wg] File staging extension
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Today we discussed which URI's to support in the proposed file staging
> > extensions. Particularly for SC07.
> >
> > I suggest the following URI's
> >
> > ftp
> >
> > http
> >
> > mailto
> >
> > because they do not require us to address the issue of delegation in
> > advance of SC07. (As I said at the last OGF I do not think the
> > delegation approach in the delegation proposal is a good idea).
> >
> > Of course I think ByteIO/RNS is a good idea - but I don't expect much
> > support for that. (We support it.)
> >
> > Note that there exists a standard format for an ftp URI which includes
> > username/password. Therefore one could include the information in the
> > JSDL document without any need for delegation. (I do not know gridFTP
> > well, perhaps it supports a similar set of uri options, eliminating
> > the need for passing a delegated credential.)
> >
> > On the other hand if we choose to support gridFTP, scp, or any other
> > protocol that requires a delegated credential, then we must also agree
> > on a delegation strategy . with a potential need to replace it later.
> > (By the way, we are not familiar with a standard URI format for scp.)
> >
> > Right now we (the Virginia Genesis II group) support ftp, http,
> > mailto, and RNS with delegated credentials (not via the same mechanism
> > Marty is proposing).
> >
> > A
> >
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