[OGSA-BES-WG] BES question

[Christopher Smith]

I definitely was in favour of using WS-Names in order to achieve this goal,
since my service is definitely (in a later poster's email) "old style", and
uses integer job identifiers. :-)

I don't recall the reasons why people didn't want to use WS-Names. Maybe it
was that some didn't want them mandated. I agree that maybe we should
profile this. Perhaps we can address this in the HPC Profile sessions at
OGF20?

-- Chris


On 18/3/07 11:43, "Donal K. Fellows" <donal.k.fellows at manchester.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Steven Newhouse wrote:
>>> The other thing is that from my observation so far the
>>> ReferenceParameters contains only job id and that's all, no other
>>> information is there.
>> 
>> That is required by the BES specification. Other services and systems
>> are free to use the ReferenceParameter system to provide other
>> information and do...
>> 
>> You may have identified a need for an optional human readable identifier...
> 
> As I understand the currents of opinion within the OGSA-WG, the idea is
> that the EPRs out of a BES will actually be WS-Names, and that the
> abstract name parts of each WS-Name will be the human-readable part that
> you are looking for. This isn't officially recommended yet though,
> mostly due to unpleasant politics and the fact that nobody's written the
> profile yet[*]. (I can't remember if such a profiling is on the current
> work roster or not; it might not be if people decide they need a few
> more things first to make a good profile.)
> 
> I suggest that if you're dealing with non-names, you should generate
> some magic names yourself in your portal and maintain a mapping from
> those to EPRs. You could even do some clever stuff so that the portal
> acts as the naming service for the dumb BES instances. That's the sort
> of thing that people developing portals for this sort of thing have had
> to do in the past anyway.
> 
> Donal.
> [* Correct me if I'm wrong! ]
> 
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