[OGSA-BES-WG] Tracker Resolution Descriptions

[Mark Morgan]

Well, I guess the thing that confuses me is whether or not it is SOP to
re-open an issue that was discussed previously because a new person has
re-raised that issue.  I'll bow to whatever the majority thinks is best of
course, but it seems to me that you can't reopen an issue everytime a new
person re-raises it or you risk the possibility of continuously cycling on
it.  New information should always be considered, but if an issue gets
re-raised that has already been discussed fully and voted on, then it
doesn't make sense to re-discuss it.  Just my 2 cents worth...

-Mark 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:ogsa-bes-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Ian Foster
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> Mark:
> 
> I guess that I am asking that we re-open the issue, then.
> 
> Ian.
> 
> At 07:47 PM 9/5/2006 -0400, Mark Morgan wrote:
> 
> 
> 	I'm not sure what level of "addressing" is meant here, but my
> 	recollection/belief was that it was addressed in the 
> group in so much as the
> 	topic was discussed at the last face-to-face and that 
> the appearance of the
> 	GetAttributesDocument was the result of that 
> discussion.  We haven't as a
> 	group discussed the email that Peter sent out yet but 
> it is my belief that
> 	doing so is essentially a rehash of discussions previously had.
> 	
> 	-Mark 
> 	
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> 	> [mailto:ogsa-bes-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Ian Foster
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> 	> Subject: Re: [OGSA-BES-WG] Tracker Resolution Descriptions
> 	> 
> 	> Has Peter's comment been discussed?
> 	> 
> 	> He advocates (I believe) that we should not include the 
> 	> GetAttributesDocument operation. Instead, any particular BES 
> 	> should choose (if they wish) to provide access to attributes 
> 	> via an appropriate resource model-specific operations.
> 	> 
> 	> * A WS-Transfer-based BES would use GET
> 	> * A WSRF-based BES would use WS-ResourceProperties
> 	> * A resource-model-free BES might define a 
> 	> GetAttributesDocument operation
> 	> * etc.
> 	> 
> 	> This seems a good proposal to me.
> 	> 
> 	> Ian.
> 	> 
> 	> At 03:09 PM 9/2/2006 -0600, Peter G. Lane wrote:
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	>       2) Why are we still essentially advocating 
> 	> WS-Transfer's attribute model by having the 
> 	> GetAttributesDocument operation? In my opinion it is not 
> 	> necessary for minimal interop, and makes WS-Transfer's Get 
> 	> operation redundant. Is part of the problem that we haven't 
> 	> defined any interop standards yet?
> 	> 
> 	> 
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