[ogsa-bes-wg] Re: [jsdl-wg] Questions and potential changes to JSDL, as seen from HPC Profile point-of-view

[Andreas Savva]

In short, yes. Thanks Karl.

Sometimes things might have been left unspecified for a
reason---because, for example, we decided we could not define
grid-default behaviour in a language specification. Sometimes because we
might have missed something.

I think the HPCP effort is good since it will help us make these
distinctions clearer and also to see whether we 'drew the lines' at
reasonable places.

Andreas

Karl Czajkowski wrote:
> On Jun 16, Andreas Savva modulated:
>> Hi Marvin,
>>
>> I think that, in general, if a restriction the HPC profile chooses to
>> make is specific to its domain then, yes, it is possible that some other
>> profile may choose to make different choices. Are you saying that JSDL
>> must be changed to fit exactly what the HPC profile requires?
> 
> If I might interpret, I think the issue is that there is a subtle and
> qualitative judgment involved in deciding whether something is:
> 
>   a) a basic syntax and semantics that ought to underlie every profile
> 
>   b) a restriction of the base to simplify a profile
> 
>   c) an extension of the base for a domain-specific profile
> 
>   d) a contradiction of the base in a profile
> 
> I am sure that the people who have been involved in JSDL for a long
> period of time would have a certain level of "shared taste" as to how
> to draw these lines.  Other people looking from the outside might not
> appreciate the history of interactions which create this group
> perspective.
> 
> Alas, I do not think there is any simple technical or procedural
> solution to the make these distinctions and to support evolution of
> ideas. At best, we can periodically reassure each other that we are
> willing to consider new viewpoints and alternatives, while also being
> patient to "educate" new arrivals, thereby having the necessary
> hysteresis in the process to make progress and yet avoid thrashing.
> 
> 
> karl
> 

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Andreas Savva
Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd