[OGSA-AUTHZ] checkpointing the discussion on VO attributes

David Chadwick d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk
Mon Jan 28 07:33:52 CST 2008


You can if you want. I have the other two docs to edit

David


Valerio Venturi wrote:
> Ok, looks like we have agreements on most of the point. Who takes the
> pen?
> Blair, DavidG, what about the chances that this may become an OGF doc?
> If there are some, we'll go with the OGF doc template.
> 
> Valerio
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 15:22 +0100, Valerio Venturi wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'll try to checkpoint the discussion had so far.
>>
>> As Krzysztof is planning to serve more than one VO with the same
>> service, we cannot have a one to one relationship between entityIDs and
>> VOs, this imply the need of having a VO attribute. Which was also more
>> or less David's concern, an authority being able to assert whatever it
>> wants. If we go wiht this, the VO attribute stays.
>> We have two proposal so far. Tom suggested to use the MACE-Dir
>> eduPersonScopedAffiliation attribute
>>
>> <saml:Attribute
>>   xmlns:xacmlprof="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:profiles:attribute:XACML"
>>   xmlns:ldapprof="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:profiles:attribute:LDAP"
>>   xacmlprof:DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string"
>>   ldapprof:Encoding="LDAP"
>>   NameFormat="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:attrname-format:uri"
>>   Name="urn:oid:1.3.6.1.4.1.5923.1.1.1.9"
>>   FriendlyName="eduPersonScopedAffiliation">
>>   <saml:AttributeValue        
>>     xsi:type="xs:string">member at voName
>>   </saml:AttributeValue>
>> </saml:Attribute>
>>
>> while in our first draft Krzysztof and I suggested the use of a specific
>>
>> <saml:Attribute 
>>   xmlns:xacmlprof="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:profiles:attribute:XACML"
>>   NameFormat="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:attrname-format:uri"
>>   Name="uri_to_define"
>>   FriendlyName="vo"
>>   xacmlprof:DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">
>>   <saml:AttributeValue xsi:type="xsd:string">
>>     voName 
>>   </saml:AttributeValue>
>> </saml:Attribute>
>>
>> Let's try to agree on one.
>>
>> There were concerns about Tom's proposal to use Grouper to express
>> groups, specifically about the contents being an URN. Anyway, the
>> specification doesn't mandate them to be URN, it recommends to use URIs
>> is uniqueness is to eb achieved.
>>
>> Other concerns with using this?
>>
>> Still we have no suggestions for expressing roles, apart from the
>> initial (but I have made the group syntax homogeneous with the above)
>>
>> <saml:Attribute
>>   xmlns:xacmlprof="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:profiles:attribute:XACML"
>>   NameFormat="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:attrname-format:uri"
>>   Name="uri_to_define"
>>   FriendlyName="role"
>>   xacmlprof:DataType="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">
>>   <saml:AttributeValue xsi:type="xsd:string">
>>     VO-Admin at vo
>>   </saml:AttributeValue>
>>   <saml:AttributeValue xsi:type="xsd:string">
>>     SoftwareManager at vo:group:subgroup
>>   </saml:AttributeValue>
>> </saml:Attribute>
>>
>> that seems to receive more favor than the one with the scope attributes.
>>
>> What problems can you see with that?
>>
>> Valerio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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