[ogf20pc] FW: Proposal of a Community Workshop for OGF20

Tue Jan 16 10:39:02 CST 2007

Dave, All, 

Sorry, I sent this idea first to part of GFSG. This is another workshop
proposal as briefly mentioned in our PC teleconf.

Regards
Wolfgang

-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfgang Gentzsch [mailto:wgentzsch at mcnc.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:41 AM
To: 'Dave Berry'; gcf at indiana.edu
Cc: 'David De Roure'; 'Dennis Gannon'; 'Satoshi Matsuoka'; 'Thilo Kielmann';
'Hai Jin'; 'Alan Blatecky'; 'Victor Alessandrini'; 'Wolfgang Gentzsch';
'Charlie Catlett'; 'Ken Klingenstein'; 'Beth Plale'; 'Robert Fogel';
'Linesch, Mark'; 'Craig Lee'; 'Gwen Nichols-White'; 'Steve Crumb'; 'Julie
Wulf-Knoerzer'
Subject: Proposal of a Community Workshop for OGF20

Dear All,

After checking with Geoffrey, I want to propose an "anchor workshop" along
the lines of 

"Building and operating Community Grids for Production; Lessons Learnt and
Recommendations" 

(according to Geoffrey's "Community Resource Aggregation". I told Geoffrey
about my own research on major grid projects over the last 12 months, which
resulted in a report on the UK e-Science Initiative, TeraGrid, Naregi,
D-Grid, ChinaGrid, and EGEE. Some of you have kindly provided input, thanks!
A little story is currently underway for GRIDtoday. 

This could be a 2-3 slot Workshop, the first 1-2 sessions with short
presentation from major grid projects about their lessons learnt, and the
last slot being a panel where the presenters elaborate on recommendations on
how to build new community grids and/or improve existing ones. 

As a result, we could all 'refine' the existing report (please see attached
a draft) and/or produce an official "OGF Experience and Lessons on Community
Resource Aggregation" or so. 

We could also include the Production Grid Services RG which did Campus Grids
at GGF15 but nothing thereafter. 

Comments/ideas are very welcome ! 

Best regards
Wolfgang

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Berry [mailto:daveb at nesc.ac.uk] 
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:55 PM
To: gcf at indiana.edu; Wolfgang Gentzsch
Cc: David De Roure; Dennis Gannon; Satoshi Matsuoka; Thilo Kielmann; Hai
Jin; Alan Blatecky; Victor Alessandrini; Wolfgang Gentzsch; Charlie Catlett;
Ken Klingenstein; Beth Plale; Robert Fogel; Linesch, Mark; Craig Lee; Gwen
Nichols-White; Steve Crumb; Julie Wulf-Knoerzer
Subject: RE: Workshops and Software Provider Sessions at OGF20 May 2007

Regarding the software provider sessions, please could you explain the
process for inviting and selecting presenters?  Will we issue a CFP?  I
presume we should have a meeting of the PC subgroup to discuss the
selection.

I'm sure that the OMII-UK would like to present their middleware at an
OGF - have they been invited?  Fujitsu Labs Europe are strong candidates
too, as are D-Grid.

Turning to the workshops, would one approach be to encourage certain
people to submit a proposal via the CfP, rather than to pick a topic
ourselves and then look for people to run it?

There is quite a lot of interest in Campus Grids in the UK at the
moment.  Would you like me to ask Clare Gryce or David Wallom if they'd
be interested in running the CRAG workshop?  I expect we'd still need
someone with an international profile to reach out and encourage
participation from outside the UK - is Miron likely to be interested.

On the Data Management side, we can think of several people to invite.
These include Peter Kunst, Erwin Laure (EGEE), Neil Chue-Hong
(OGSA-DAI), Reagan Moore (SRB), Brian Lawrence (RAL), Ann Chervenak
(Globus), Allen Luniewski (IBM), Chris Jordan (SDSC), Arie Shoshani
(SRM), George Beckett (QCDGrid), Guy Rixon or Bob Mann (AstroGrid), Alex
Szalay, someone from the GFS-WG, people from SNIA, and others.  That
isn't even including industrial speakers.

As an alternative, I know Rich Sinnott was interested in running a
HealthGrids workshop, with the support of the UK Medical Research
Council.  I advised him to submit a response to the CFP but if we're
looking to pick a workshop in advance and this seems a suitable topic,
we could ask him.  Again, the more international support we have as
well, the better.

Best wishes,

Dave.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoffrey Fox [mailto:gcf at grids.ucs.indiana.edu] 
> Sent: 14 January 2007 19:39
> To: Wolfgang Gentzsch
> Cc: gcf at indiana.edu; 'David De Roure'; 'Dennis Gannon'; 
> 'Satoshi Matsuoka'; 'Thilo Kielmann'; 'Hai Jin'; 'Alan 
> Blatecky'; 'Victor Alessandrini'; 'Wolfgang Gentzsch'; 
> 'Charlie Catlett'; 'Ken Klingenstein'; 'Beth Plale'; 'Robert 
> Fogel'; 'Linesch, Mark'; 'Craig Lee'; 'Gwen Nichols-White'; 
> 'Steve Crumb'; 'Julie Wulf-Knoerzer'; Dave Berry
> Subject: Re: Workshops and Software Provider Sessions at 
> OGF20 May 2007
> 
> At OGF19 Monday's Semantic Web 2.0 Sessions are on the Web 
> http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?event_id=6
> while I believe Ken has Tuesday under control
> 
> For OGF20, I think we mostly importantly need 1 or 2 people 
> to want to 
> lead a workshop! I think if one does "Community Resource 
> Aggregation". 
> lessons learnt are perhaps most interesting as many want to do this?
> 
> PS while preparing for Web 2.0 workshop, I was intrigued by 
> Enterprise 
> 2.0 (see last slide of 
> http://grids.ucs.indiana.edu/ptliupages/presentations/ogf19web
> 20jan29-07.ppt); 
> it looks as though Web 2.0 will be applied to many traditional Grid 
> applications.
> 
> Wolfgang Gentzsch wrote:
> > Geoffrey, 
> >
> > How is preparation for the 2 OGF19 workshops proceeding ?
> >
> > Concerning the OGF20 workshop on "Community Resource 
> Aggregation" I think we
> > should find a better name for it and get clear about the 
> focus. The above is
> > too 'expressionless' and too 'general' because aggregation 
> of resources into
> > a virtual resource pool is what any community grid is doing 
> basically. What
> > do we really want to offer here? Do we want to hear about 
> the technologies
> > which assemble all available resources (but this has been 
> said a hundred
> > times) or about the challenges and how to overcome them, or 
> simply about
> > different strategies how to do it? Suggestions ? 
> >
> > Or is it simply about how to build community grids, today, 
> with a few
> > concrete examples of campus and national grids, compile 
> lessons learned and
> > draw some conclusions/recommendations for those who want to 
> build community
> > grids in the near future? 
> >
> > Regards
> > Wolfgang
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geoffrey Fox [mailto:gcfpc at grids.ucs.indiana.edu] 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:36 PM
> > To: David De Roure; Dennis Gannon; Satoshi Matsuoka; Thilo 
> Kielmann; Hai
> > Jin; Alan Blatecky; Victor Alessandrini; Wolfgang Gentzsch; 
> Charlie Catlett;
> > Ken Klingenstein; Beth Plale
> > Cc: Robert Fogel; Linesch, Mark; Craig Lee; Gwen 
> Nichols-White; Steve Crumb;
> > Julie Wulf-Knoerzer; Dave Berry
> > Subject: Workshops and Software Provider Sessions at OGF20 May 2007
> >
> > Workshops:
> > ----------
> > We have two one-day workshops at OGF19
> > Semantic Web 2.0
> > Federated Identity
> >
> > We have "Commercial Web 2.0" penciled in for OGF21
> >
> > We might be able to squeeze one fullish day meeting at OGF20 on the
> > Monday which as it is a Bank Holiday so one should not expect strong
> > local industry attendance. Looking at OGF18 notes, we suggested
> >
> > Community Resource Aggregation as National and Campus Grids
> > (Generalize campus grids which we featured in GGF15, to more general
> > "Integration" Grids)
> >
> > Data Management
> > (This could cover SRB NGAS SRM (and other EGEE work) and in
> > particular Virtual Observatory work VOSpace)
> >
> > However it is getting late so this will not happen unless we have a 
> > volunteer or two to organize one of these or another topic. 
> So please 
> > Volunteer!
> >
> > Software Provider Sessions
> > --------------------------
> > I include current OGF19 Software Provider Sessions and a list of
> > suggestions that I sent earlier on for possible OGF19 
> inclusion. I got
> > no response to that request so I resend as a start for 
> OGF20 where we
> > could have upto 8 sessions.
> > Please send me any comments on process or choices. I would 
> assume we 
> > should do nothing serious until after we see what happens at OGF19
> >
> >   
> 
> -- 
> :
> : Geoffrey Fox  gcf at indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http://www.infomall.org
> : Phones Cell 812-219-4643 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977
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> 
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