[ogf20pc] Network question

Fotis Karayannis fkara at grnet.gr
Thu Feb 8 18:57:10 CST 2007


Hi Stephen,
  no it is the second. It was easy for us to get the addresses and 
wanted to be safe.
Multicast is required for AccessGrid and similar streaming/conferencing 
apps (although multicast/unicast bridges can work out ok), but I don't 
know if there are any such requirements.
All the best,
Fotis

Stephen M Pickles wrote:
> Thanks, Fotis.
> 
> Did you have a known requirement for real IP addresses?
> Or did you do it that way just to be safe?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Stephen
> 
> PS All - we're also assuming that no-one will need
> multicast support. Speak now or forever hold your peace!
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Fotis Karayannis [mailto:fkara at grnet.gr] 
>>Sent: 08 February 2007 15:07
>>To: Stephen.Pickles at manchester.ac.uk
>>Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org; Kristina Ulrika Gunne; Steven Newhouse; 
>>Spiros Athanasakis; GRNET Admin support
>>Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Network question
>>
>>Hi Stephen,
>>  I can link you with my networking guys that did both the EGEE-3
>>conference and the GGF16 in Athens. For those we got 4 class 
>>C addresses
>>(a bit more than a thousand IPs). Indeed it takes some 
>>negotiation with
>>the national registry, but it is a standard procedure.
>>
>>Your hybrid solution is also ok (and maybe more secure) but 
>>indeed adds
>>  to the complexity.
>>Let's take the rest off line,
>>All the best,
>>Fotis
>>
>>Stephen M Pickles wrote:
>>
>>>All,
>>>
>>>A question has arisen regarding the network provision at OGF20
>>>and EGEE-UF 2.
>>>
>>>Is anyone likely to be running a demonstration in the exhibition
>>>that will involve incoming connections?
>>>
>>>We need to be able to provide up to 900 or so IP addresses.
>>>If all connections will be outgoing, it should be possible
>>>to do this using Network Address Translation. If some connections
>>>will be incoming, then it is likely that real IP addresses
>>>will be needed.
>>>
>>>An early response will be very helpful. Obtaining 900+ real
>>>IP addresses will require some negotiation and cannot be
>>>guaranteed at this stage. Adopting a hybrid solution of NAT
>>>for wireless and real IP addresses for wired ethernet to
>>>the booths is possible, but would add complexity
>>>to the network design and configuration.
>>>
>>>Stephen
>>>
>>>PS We're assuming IPV6 will not be required.
>>>
>>>==================== Stephen M. Pickles ====================
>>>
>>>Technical Director, National Grid Service
>>>Manchester Computing
>>>Room G49.1, Kilburn Building
>>>The University of Manchester           tel: +44 161 275 5974
>>>Oxford Road                            fax: +44 161 275 6800
>>>Manchester M13 9PL          stephen.pickles at manchester.ac.uk
>>>
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>>
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>>Fotis Karayannis, Dr. Eng.
>>Infrastructure Development and Planning Manager
>>Greek Research & Technology Network-GRNET S.A.
>>http://www.grnet.gr
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Fotis Karayannis, Dr. Eng.
Infrastructure Development and Planning Manager
Greek Research & Technology Network-GRNET S.A.
http://www.grnet.gr

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