[ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC

Mark Parsons m.parsons at epcc.ed.ac.uk
Wed Sep 27 15:56:35 CDT 2006


Hi,

I think that's an excellent idea - the group is formally led by Philipp
Wieder of FZJ  out of the NextGRID project which I lead and I think he's
done a really good job.

Cheers,

Mark
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org 
> [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Steve Crumb
> Sent: 27 September 2006 15:04
> To: 'Dave Berry'; 'John Easton'
> Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
> 
> Dave,
> 
> While it is fresh in my mind, we may want to have the 
> standards concertation
> group led by Phillip Wieder and Wolfgang Ziegler organize the 
> "standards
> meets user" session.  I was at their group meeting in 
> Brussels last week
> during the European Grid Days and their charter seems very 
> clear to support
> the standardization activities of the EC-funded grid projects 
> (at least from
> the Research side).  Mark Parsons was in the same meeting and 
> might support
> this idea (or have a better one).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve Crumb
> Executive Director, OGF
> scrumb at ogf.org
> +1 312-895-5931 (new)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org 
> [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of
> Dave Berry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:43 AM
> To: John Easton
> Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
> 
> 
> Let me add some background about the overall shape of the 
> event.  The plan
> is to have OGF20 running from Mon-Wed and the colocated EGEE 
> User Forum from
> Wed-Fri.  Therefore the Wednesday will be an overlap day, 
> which will require
> careful planning between the OGF & EGEE.  I envisage the 
> industry track
> running primarily on Monday & Tuesday, but we can of course 
> make suggestions
> for the Wednesday if we think it appropriate.
> 
> One suggestion made at GGF18 was that the PC should arrange a 
> session on
> Wednesday on "standards meet users", bringing together people 
> working on
> standards with users of EGEE and other Grids.  This seems to 
> fit nicely with
> John's suggestion.  Perhaps we could have a similar session 
> on Tuesday aimed
> primarily at industry users and feed the results into the 
> Wednesday session?
> 
> I believe Mark Parsons has been tasked with encouraging EU 
> projects to be
> involved in the industry track.  I believe his remit covers 
> NESSI, BeInGrid
> and NextGrid as well as EGEE.  Mark is on this committee and 
> can join the
> call on the 6th.
> 
> We do need to consider our audience.  Many of us already in the Grid
> community have heard some of the stories before, although 
> there are new
> projects coming on stream now.  I'd like to encourage new 
> people along to at
> least one day of the event.  It will have been 5 years since the last
> GGF/OGF in the UK, so I would hope that we could get people along who
> haven't been before.  We need to think how to accommodate 
> them alongside
> more regular attenders.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Dave.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Easton [mailto:JKJ at uk.ibm.com]
> > Sent: 27 September 2006 10:10
> > To: Dave Berry
> > Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org
> > Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
> > 
> > Whilst the 'value to the business' argument, backed up with 
> some case 
> > studies is useful I wonder whether people are getting fed 
> up of seeing 
> > the same old industries here?  Maybe the time is ripe to look for 
> > users / stories in those industries that aren't perceived to be a
> > sweet-spot for
> > grid?
> > 
> > The other tack here really depends upon how contentious we
> > want to be...
> > I'd like to see some discussion about why very few users have 
> > adopted grids
> > that conform to the very standards that OGF is defining.  Why 
> > is Globus
> > getting little, if any, traction within the business 
> > community and what
> > needs to be done to fix it?  As I said, potentially 
> > contentious, but it
> > could provoke some good discussions for a panel discussion perhaps?
> > 
> > I'd also suggest maye getting someone to talk to the OGF
> > about NESSI and
> > what they are up to to improve industrial use of grid technologies.
> > 
> > J
> > Senior Consulting IT Specialist and Technical Staff Member 
> IBM Systems 
> > & Technology Group Infrastructure Innovation
> > Int:  7-313796.  Ext:  +44-1256-343796
> > 
> > 
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> > Dear PC member,
> > 
> > I have subscribed everyone who agreed to join the industry PC
> > to this OGF20
> > PC mailing list.  The next steps are to arrange the first 
> > telcons of this
> > subgroup and to request input.
> > 
> > No doubt it will be difficult to get all of us on a telcon at
> > short notice,
> > so I'm offerring a choice of times; we'll go with the one 
> > that most people
> > can make.  If you are on the industry sub-group (i.e. I 
> > explicitly invited
> > to join earlier in the month), please let me know which of 
> > the following
> > slots you can attend:
> > 
> > Friday 6th October:  8am PDT / 10am CDT / 11am EDT / 4pm 
> BST / 5pm CST
> > 
> > Monday 9th October:  8am PDT / 10am CDT / 11am EDT / 4pm 
> BST / 5pm CST
> > 
> > Wednesday 18th October:  8am PDT / 10am CDT / 11am EDT / 4pm
> > BST / 5pm CST
> > 
> > Wednesday 18th October:  9am PDT / 11am CDT / 12am EDT / 5pm
> > BST / 6pm CST
> > 
> > In addition, please propose keynote speakers, speakers (or
> > projects) for
> > sessions, topics for panels, etc.  We should also consider 
> > this from the
> > demand side - if we aim to spread the Grid news to a broader 
> > audience, who
> > would IT managers, CIOs and budding entrepeneurs like to hear?  I'll
> > collate suggestions but if you have a topic that merits 
> > broader discussion,
> > feel free to mail the list.
> > 
> > Note that this mailing list will eventually include everyone
> > on the PC,
> > including all sub-groups.
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > 
> > Dave Berry
> > Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National 
> > e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street
> > Edinburgh, EH8 9AA                  +44 131 651 4039
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