[ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
Appa, Jamil (UK)
Jamil.Appa at baesystems.com
Wed Sep 27 16:37:43 CDT 2006
Hi Dave
For your information I lead several activities within the SIMDAT EU
project and I also represent the project on the Grid Standards
Coordination Group (GSCG) lead by Philipp Wieder of NextGrid.
Jamil
Jamil Appa Tel/Fax: +44 (0) 117 302 8245/8007
Group Leader Mob: +44 (0) 7747 606 788
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From: ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf
Of Mark Parsons
Sent: 27 September 2006 21:57
To: 'Steve Crumb'; 'Dave Berry'; 'John Easton'
Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org
Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
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Hi,
I think that's an excellent idea - the group is formally led by Philipp
Wieder of FZJ out of the NextGRID project which I lead and I think he's
done a really good job.
Cheers,
Mark
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Dr Mark I Parsons
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The University of Edinburgh
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Edinburgh EH9 3JZ UK
Phone: +44 131 650 5022 Fax: +44 131 650 6555 Mobile: +44 7770 832 570
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org
> [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Steve Crumb
> Sent: 27 September 2006 15:04
> To: 'Dave Berry'; 'John Easton'
> Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
>
> Dave,
>
> While it is fresh in my mind, we may want to have the standards
> concertation group led by Phillip Wieder and Wolfgang Ziegler organize
> the "standards meets user" session. I was at their group meeting in
> Brussels last week during the European Grid Days and their charter
> seems very clear to support the standardization activities of the
> EC-funded grid projects (at least from the Research side). Mark
> Parsons was in the same meeting and might support this idea (or have a
> better one).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Crumb
> Executive Director, OGF
> scrumb at ogf.org
> +1 312-895-5931 (new)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org
> [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:43 AM
> To: John Easton
> Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
>
>
> Let me add some background about the overall shape of the
> event. The plan
> is to have OGF20 running from Mon-Wed and the colocated EGEE
> User Forum from
> Wed-Fri. Therefore the Wednesday will be an overlap day,
> which will require
> careful planning between the OGF & EGEE. I envisage the
> industry track
> running primarily on Monday & Tuesday, but we can of course
> make suggestions
> for the Wednesday if we think it appropriate.
>
> One suggestion made at GGF18 was that the PC should arrange a
> session on
> Wednesday on "standards meet users", bringing together people
> working on
> standards with users of EGEE and other Grids. This seems to
> fit nicely with
> John's suggestion. Perhaps we could have a similar session
> on Tuesday aimed
> primarily at industry users and feed the results into the
> Wednesday session?
>
> I believe Mark Parsons has been tasked with encouraging EU
> projects to be
> involved in the industry track. I believe his remit covers
> NESSI, BeInGrid
> and NextGrid as well as EGEE. Mark is on this committee and
> can join the
> call on the 6th.
>
> We do need to consider our audience. Many of us already in the Grid
> community have heard some of the stories before, although
> there are new
> projects coming on stream now. I'd like to encourage new
> people along to at
> least one day of the event. It will have been 5 years since the last
> GGF/OGF in the UK, so I would hope that we could get people along who
> haven't been before. We need to think how to accommodate
> them alongside
> more regular attenders.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dave.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Easton [mailto:JKJ at uk.ibm.com]
> > Sent: 27 September 2006 10:10
> > To: Dave Berry
> > Cc: ogf20pc at ogf.org
> > Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Please reply - Kick-starting the industry PC
> >
> > Whilst the 'value to the business' argument, backed up with
> some case
> > studies is useful I wonder whether people are getting fed
> up of seeing
> > the same old industries here? Maybe the time is ripe to look for
> > users / stories in those industries that aren't perceived to be a
> > sweet-spot for
> > grid?
> >
> > The other tack here really depends upon how contentious we
> > want to be...
> > I'd like to see some discussion about why very few users have
> > adopted grids
> > that conform to the very standards that OGF is defining. Why
> > is Globus
> > getting little, if any, traction within the business
> > community and what
> > needs to be done to fix it? As I said, potentially
> > contentious, but it
> > could provoke some good discussions for a panel discussion perhaps?
> >
> > I'd also suggest maye getting someone to talk to the OGF
> > about NESSI and
> > what they are up to to improve industrial use of grid technologies.
> >
> > J
> > Senior Consulting IT Specialist and Technical Staff Member
> IBM Systems
> > & Technology Group Infrastructure Innovation
> > Int: 7-313796. Ext: +44-1256-343796
> >
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> > "Dave Berry"
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> > <daveb at nesc.ac.uk
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> > industry PC
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> > Dear PC member,
> >
> > I have subscribed everyone who agreed to join the industry PC
> > to this OGF20
> > PC mailing list. The next steps are to arrange the first
> > telcons of this
> > subgroup and to request input.
> >
> > No doubt it will be difficult to get all of us on a telcon at
> > short notice,
> > so I'm offerring a choice of times; we'll go with the one
> > that most people
> > can make. If you are on the industry sub-group (i.e. I
> > explicitly invited
> > to join earlier in the month), please let me know which of
> > the following
> > slots you can attend:
> >
> > Friday 6th October: 8am PDT / 10am CDT / 11am EDT / 4pm
> BST / 5pm CST
> >
> > Monday 9th October: 8am PDT / 10am CDT / 11am EDT / 4pm
> BST / 5pm CST
> >
> > Wednesday 18th October: 8am PDT / 10am CDT / 11am EDT / 4pm
> > BST / 5pm CST
> >
> > Wednesday 18th October: 9am PDT / 11am CDT / 12am EDT / 5pm
> > BST / 6pm CST
> >
> > In addition, please propose keynote speakers, speakers (or
> > projects) for
> > sessions, topics for panels, etc. We should also consider
> > this from the
> > demand side - if we aim to spread the Grid news to a broader
> > audience, who
> > would IT managers, CIOs and budding entrepeneurs like to hear? I'll
> > collate suggestions but if you have a topic that merits
> > broader discussion,
> > feel free to mail the list.
> >
> > Note that this mailing list will eventually include everyone
> > on the PC,
> > including all sub-groups.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Dave Berry
> > Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National
> > e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street
> > Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039
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