[occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action

Ralf Nyren ralf at nyren.net
Mon Sep 12 14:29:58 CDT 2011


Sounds good!
/Ralf

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 21:16:47 +0200, Edmonds, AndrewX  
<andrewx.edmonds at intel.com> wrote:

> Agreed. Perhaps as a note I can append "termination of a resource  
> instance is performed using HTTP DELETE (see section x.y.z)"?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralf Nyren [mailto:ralf at nyren.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:28 PM
> To: Edmonds, AndrewX
> Cc: Andy Edmonds; Kim Rohner; occi-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: RE: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action
>
>
> Yes, agreed on the non-intuitive part :)
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> Is it provider specific what happens if you http-delete a running Compute
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> instance? It could be equivalent to the stop-terminate case...
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>
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> Using Actions to Create/Delete Resource instances seems to push to usage
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> of actions a bit to far IMO.
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> /Ralf
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> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:13:51 +0000, "Edmonds, AndrewX"
>
> <andrewx.edmonds at intel.com> wrote:
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>> A method - the transition from inactive to terminal state would be
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>> 'terminate'. The action of 'stop' and http-delete is certainly the only
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> way
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>> to do it currently but as Kim's question shows, this is perhaps not
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>> particularly intuitive.
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>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> From: occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf
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>> Of Ralf Nyren
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>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:05 PM
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>> To: Andy Edmonds
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>> Cc: Kim Rohner; occi-wg at ogf.org
>
>> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Question about Compute instance action
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>>
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>>
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>> Would the "stop-terminate" state be equivalent to a stop Action followed
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>> by a removal of the Compute instance?
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>>
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>> The state diagram in [1] page 6 has shows the "stop" action changing the
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>> state from Active to Inactive. You mean to add another state Andy?
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>>
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>> regards, Ralf
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>>
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>> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:25:49 +0200, Andy Edmonds <andy at edmonds.be>
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> wrote:
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>>> Hi Kim,
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>>> The required functionality is in the specification as an Action against
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>> an
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>>> instance specified by its URL. Please see Section 3.1 (table 3, 2nd
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> row)
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>> of
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>>> the Infrastructure specification [1] and also the Core specification
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> [2]
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>>> for
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>>> more details on Actions. 'stop' will result in termination. In [3]
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> there
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>>> are
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>>> examples of such Actions (e.g. pg 11). On review of the noted sections
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>>> there
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>>> is no explicit specification of a stop-terminate state change as you
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>> note.
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>>> It's a good catch and the Infrastructure specification will be updated
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>> to
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>>> reflect this, should no one else here have an objection to the change?
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>>>
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>>> Thanks!
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>>>
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>>> Andy
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>>> andy.edmonds.be
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>>>
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>>> [1] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.184.pdf
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>>> [2] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.183.pdf
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>>> [3] http://ogf.org/documents/GFD.185.pdf
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>>>
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>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 16:43, Kim Rohner <KimRohner at web.de> wrote:
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>>>
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>>>> Dear OCCI-Workgroup,
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>>>>
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>>>> i have a question concerning the OCCI Compute instance actions.
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>>>>
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>>>> Comparing to the Amazon EC2-API,
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>>>> OCCI obviously delivers no action to terminate an Instance.
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> Terminating
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>>>> in the Amazon-API means, that the instance is shut down and won´t be
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>>>> visible after one hour.
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>>>> The Action you listed in the GFD-P-R.184 on page 5 gives only the
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>>>> possibility to hibernate or suspend.
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>>>>
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>>>> Is that the same or am I just confused :) ?
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>>>>
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>>>> Thanks for clearing that up for me !!!
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>>>>
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>>>> Feel free to answer in German :)
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>>>>
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>>>> Keep up the good work,
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>>>>
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>>>> Kind regards,
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>>>> Kim Rohner
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