[occi-wg] Infrastructure Document

Gary Mazz garymazzaferro at gmail.com
Mon Nov 8 09:02:25 CST 2010


The network range was put in place to support as part of a provisioning 
scheme used by some cloud providers. The range was intended to select a 
subset of a network segment, much like the client auto-configuring DHCP. 
The provider responds with one arbitrary IP address bounded by the range 
value.

Under this scheme, if you needed a network interface with a different 
gateway address, you requested a different network Resource (NIC) .

-gary



On 11/8/2010 5:04 AM, Edmonds, AndrewX wrote:
> Address ranges - good catch on this one Csom :-) - yes this should only be
> 0...1
> On other aspects I would agree with what Ralf has said.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralf Nyren [mailto:ralf at nyren.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:00 PM
> To: Csom Gyula; Edmonds, AndrewX; occi-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Infrastructure Document
>
> inline..
>
> On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 08:23:13 +0100, Csom Gyula<csom at interface.hu>  wrote:
>
>> Extensions would do the home work:) Meanwhile for the long term I would
>> propose the following approach.
>>
>> Some programming languages provides a so called standard library besides
>> the
>> core. I think a similar solution could work here as well. That is
>> typical extensions
>> those applicable to many situations but not all, could be covered by
>> OCCI:
>> maybe not in the core but in a standard "library", maybe not in the next
>> release
>> but in a later one.
> Yes, good point. The plan is to have multiple extensions available for
> different use cases etc. However, this will have to wait to a future
> release of OCCI.
>
>> Regarding DHCP... an occi.ipnetwork.dhcp could be the additional
>> attribute. Like
>> occi.ipnetwork.gateway it would hold an IP address, namely the address
>> of the
>> DHCP server. This would support only one goal: to tell the cloud that
>> this
>> address is reserved in the range:
>>
>> available addresses := occi.ipnetwork.address(es) -
>> occi.ipnetwork.gateway - occi.ipnetwork.dhcp
>>
>> But maybe I missunderstood the role of occi.ipnetwork.address:
>>
>> - The spec says: "IPv4 or IPv6 Address range, CIDR notation", so I
>> thought it
>>    was something like this: 192.168.1.0/24 would define a C class subnet
>> with 256
>>    addresses.
>>    If this is the case than there is a need for a method to specify
>> reserved
>>    addresses within the range. Gateway is a sample for such a reserved
>> address
>>    but others could be there as wll (like DHCP if it is different from
>> the gw).
>>
>> - The spec also says that multiplicity is 0..* so maybe one can define
>> many
>>    addresses, but cannot specify a whole range. That is she should list
>> avalailable
>>    addresses one by one.
>>    If this is the case then there is no need for the suggested attribute.
>> One could
>>    simply exlude the reserved addresses from the range.
>>
>> So my question is: Could you please clarify the occi.ipnetwork.address
>> semantics?
>> in respect of (a) address ranges vs. individual addresses and (b)
>> reserved
>> addresses?
> Ah, I see your issue now. Hmm... having multiple address ranges and just
> one gateway does not make sense. Each CIDR range need its own gateway to
> be useful. Andy, do you remember the reason behind this?
>
> Regarding reserved addresses I think this is something for the server
> side. If you need a dhcp server address just don't make that address
> available for allocation. I may be wrong but why would the client need to
> know about reserved addresses?
>
> regards, Ralf
>
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