[occi-wg] Is OCCI the HTTP of Cloud Computing?

[Randy Bias]

Does stop mean the VM is persisted?  On Amazon it¹s a no, GoGrid it¹s a yes.

That¹s one example of what I mean.  But I think we can work around that.
I¹m more concerned about something like Œclone¹ because it¹s a lot more
overloaded than a simple Œstop¹.


--Randy


On 5/6/09 7:02 PM, "Cloud Central - Kristoffer Sheather"
<kristoffer.sheather at cloudcentral.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Randy,
> 
> Many verbs can be interpreted in different ways, as long as there is an
> agreement to what each verb means, then I don't see an issue.  Stop seems
> pretty clear to me, maybe I'm just missing something.
> 
> Regards,
> Kristoffer Sheather
> 
> 
> From: Randy Bias <randyb at gogrid.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2009 8:31 AM
> To: Tino Vazquez <tinova at fdi.ucm.es>, Chris Webb <chris.webb at elastichosts.com>
> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Is OCCI the HTTP of Cloud Computing?
> 
> Clone is dangerous. Please define what you mean. As far as I can tell
> everyone means something difference.
> 
> For pass one I'd prefer to avoid verbs that aren't very specific, like
> 'stop'. Heck, even with stop we have differences.
> 
> 'Clone' is incredibly overloaded and has lots of expectations associated
> with it.
> 
> 
> --Randy
> 
> 
> On 5/6/09 9:01 AM, "Tino Vazquez" wrote:
> 
>> > Hi everyone,
>> > 
>> > I would like to see a clone verb (or maybe attribute, not sure about
>> > this) for drives, also maybe as an extension. I'm thinking on
>> > implementations sharing images using shared storage, this will allow
>> > to use those images directly, and obviously "cloning" set to "no" will
>> > make this image persistent automatically. What do you think?
>> > 
>> > About the choice of format, as much as I like XML and Atom specially,
>> > I would advocate for the "simpler is nicer" principle is there is
>> > nothing that proves that it can do things that simple text or even
>> > JSON (from which I can see benefits for machine and human readibility)
>> > simply can´t, which also I haven't seen so far (Sam, please, correct
>> > me if I am wrong).
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > 
>> > -Tino
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Constantino Vázquez, Grid Technology Engineer/Researcher:
>> > http://www.dsa-research.org/tinova
>> > DSA Research Group: http://dsa-research.org
>> > Globus GridWay Metascheduler: http://www.GridWay.org
>> > OpenNebula Virtual Infrastructure Engine: http://www.OpenNebula.org
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Chris Webb
>> > wrote:
>>> >> Alexis Richardson writes:
>>> >> 
>>>> >>> Chris, if you think we have a choice to make please could you describe
>>>> >>> the options we have to choose from in more detail.
>>> >> 
>>> >> I think Richard has just beaten me to it! However, more generally, I
>>> think
>>> >> that before we can even have these discussions about formats, we should
>>> >> confirm that we're all on the same page with regard to the semantic
>>> building
>>> >> blocks:
>>> >> 
>>> >>  
>>> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.occi-wg/wiki/NounsVe
>>> >> rbsAndAttributes
>>> >> 
>>> >> I think Richard, Sam, Andy and I have all hacked at this page. Would
>>> anyone
>>> >> else like to comment or is there general consensus around these basic
>>> nouns,
>>> >> verbs and attributes?
>>> >> 
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> 
>>> >> Chris.
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