[Nsi-wg] clearer naming for service definitions

Inder Monga imonga at es.net
Thu Mar 31 02:33:23 CDT 2011


to address your p.s., I guess it is the semantic issue where the term 
"Service Definition" is now actually meaning "Service Capability" - 
capability is the full set of ranges supported by the Service. 
Definition is more exact and crisp -

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> 	Jerry Sobieski <mailto:jerry at nordu.net>
> March 30, 2011 2:55 PM
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> On 3/30/11 12:45 PM, Guy Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> As discussed in today's NSI call a clearer naming scheme would be 
>> helpful for service definitions, the following is proposed (with 
>> thanks to Inder and Tomohiro):
>>
>> */Service Capabilities Definition (SDC)/* --  This is often referred 
>> to as the 'service definition', so from Jerry's document: 'The 
>> Service Definition (SD) is a machine readable textual document that 
>> identifies each attribute of the service and the range of values that 
>> attribute will allow'.  ... and I think defines a default value?
>>
>> */Service Request Description (SRC)/* -- this is a request for a 
>> specific instance of a service.  It is created by the Requester Agent 
>> when it assigns desired values to each of the attributes described in 
>> the SDC.  The SRC is sent from the RA to the PA in a Connection Request.
>>
>> */Service Instance Description (SID) /*-- this is a description of an 
>> actual service instance, the attribute values reflect the values 
>> chosen and confirmed by the Provider Agent.
>>
>> Would these terms help clarify your service definition document?
>>
> Ahem...I think my terms are perfectly clear thank you very much.
> :-)
>
> I am reluctant to change from "Service Definition."  We have been 
> using the term for over a year in the NSI WG.   And I can reference 
> documents 5+ years old referring to "service definitions", and even 
> the GN3 BoD documents reference "Service Definitions" in this manner.
>
> In the NSI context, the sd document *defines* the scope of the service 
> - the attributes and their ranges.   These are not really 
> "capabilities" each themselves - they in fact define a single 
> [service] capability, or service.   The sum result of defining all of 
> these attributes is to bound - or "define"-  a single service capability.
>
> If a network offered two distinct services, then I would be more 
> inclined to say there are "two service capabilities" in that network - 
> or "two services".
>
> So while I see a relevance, I don't really think "Service 
> Capabilities"  is a better term.
>
> I could go with "Service Profile" (this isn't too bad...), Service 
> Request, and Service Instance.  SP, SR, SI.   Each of these have a set 
> of Attributes - SPA's, SRA's, and SIA's.
>
> ??
> Jerry
>
>
> PS:  Is some of the unease based on the "Connection *Service* 
> protocol" terminology?   IMO, the protocol does not define the 
> service  - it just provides the mechanism for interfacing with the 
> various services (or service providers.)   Hence the Network Service 
> Interface term.  The protocol is not the service, even if the service 
> uses the protocol to present the service and to deliver the 
> service....  Just trying to find why these terms are so vexing...
>>
>> Guy
>>
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> 	Guy Roberts <mailto:Guy.Roberts at dante.net>
> March 30, 2011 9:45 AM
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>
> Jerry,
>
> As discussed in today's NSI call a clearer naming scheme would be 
> helpful for service definitions, the following is proposed (with 
> thanks to Inder and Tomohiro):
>
> */Service Capabilities Definition (SDC)/* --  This is often referred 
> to as the 'service definition', so from Jerry's document: 'The Service 
> Definition (SD) is a machine readable textual document that identifies 
> each attribute of the service and the range of values that attribute 
> will allow'.  ... and I think defines a default value?
>
> */Service Request Description (SRC)/* -- this is a request for a 
> specific instance of a service.  It is created by the Requester Agent 
> when it assigns desired values to each of the attributes described in 
> the SDC.  The SRC is sent from the RA to the PA in a Connection Request.
>
> */Service Instance Description (SID) /*-- this is a description of an 
> actual service instance, the attribute values reflect the values 
> chosen and confirmed by the Provider Agent.
>
> Would these terms help clarify your service definition document?
>
> Guy
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
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>       **       Guy Roberts, PhD     Network Engineering & Planning
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