[Nsi-wg] ietf NETCONF group
Eduard Grasa
eduard.grasa at i2cat.net
Fri Jun 26 07:40:43 CDT 2009
Hi,
Yes, Netconf is an example. It is a generic protocol to configure
devices (the trick is that it specifies very little).
Best regards,
Eduard
Guy Roberts escribió:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Thanks for all your info on NETCONF, this is helpful.
>
> I guess Jerry's question is interesting - i.e. has anyone attempted to create a non-vendor specific configuration protocol?
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eduard Grasa [mailto:eduard.grasa at i2cat.net]
> Sent: 26 June 2009 12:28
> To: Jerry Sobieski
> Cc: bartosz.belter at man.poznan.pl; 'NSI WG'; Guy Roberts
> Subject: Re: [Nsi-wg] ietf NETCONF group
>
> Hi all,
>
> The netconf specification is quite simple, and does not define what is
> the device being configured. You can look at the RFC or at this nice
> wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netconf), but basically
> NETCONF defines an XML-RPC protocol with 7 messages: <get>,
> <get-config>, <edit-config>, <copy-config>, <delete-config>, <lock>,
> <unlock>, <close-session>, <kill-session>.
>
> The contens of each message (the configuration data in the wikipedia
> picture) are not part of the standard, they are left to every
> implementor, who defines the XML data that goes inside each message
> (taht's why JunOS netconf looks juniper centric, Cisco one looks Cisco
> centric, and so on). Therefore you can configure whatever you want as
> long as you use the 7 messages above (which are pretty generic anyway).
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Best regards,
>
> Eduard
>
>
> Jerry Sobieski escribió:
>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> I'd like to make a couple comments about this...I am not by any means an
>> expert, but I see some issues that I wonder if anyone has considered or
>> knows about?...
>>
>> From what I know of the JUNOS implementation, the NETCONF API seems
>> completely Juniper centric. And therefore JUNOS centric. I.e. it
>> really is focused on configuring IP routers and Juniper routers at that...
>>
>> I think the issue of configuring devices using automated network agents
>> will be more useful if it can cover devices other than just routers.
>> Certainly ethernet switches fall into this catagory (perhaps JUNOS is
>> implemented on some of these as well), but also other network devices
>> including SONET/SDH or DWDM devices (ala GMPLS "LSR" architecture).
>>
>> I also believe a generic NETCONF architecture could be useful for
>> configuring and monitoring other devices as well such as firewalls and
>> end-systems or even non-network devices such as instuments or
>> sensors... And it could be used to reconfigure larger service functions
>> such as a DHCP elements or routing domains, or policy domains if it were
>> designed to do so as part of the architectural background.
>>
>> So two questions:
>> a) Does anyone know of any NETCONF type of package that portends to
>> doing this type of of architectural domain autoconfiguration?,
>> and b) Should this effort to develop an automated configuration
>> process for IP devices consider how to define a *generic* device
>> configuration protocol that could be used to cover a broader set of
>> cyber-devices?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jerry
>>
>> Bartek Belter wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Guy, all,
>>>
>>> The GN2 AMPS (Advance Multi-domain Provisioning System, a federated resource reservation system for Premium IP) also uses this API to configure Juniper routers. And indeed, as Joan Antoni pointed out, this API is used to configure a single network device, not the whole network.
>>>
>>> If you have valid GN2 credentials you may take a look at the page: http://wiki.geant2.net/bin/view/SA3/AmpsConfigurationService
>>> This gives a brief overview to the part of AMPS responsible for the configuration of network elements. I can try to dig a bit more, if some of you are interested to get more detailed description.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bartek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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