[Nml-wg] will there be IETF related activities at IETF Dublin?

Cees de Laat delaat at uva.nl
Thu Jul 10 14:30:54 CDT 2008


At 16:09 +0100 10-07-2008, Victor Reijs (work) wrote:
>Hello all of you,
>
>As you might know there is an IETF in Dublin this month and I was
>wondering if NML related activities will be there? Let me know (might be
>a reason to go).

There is no-one from NML going there that I am aware of. But there 
are similar activities going on in the ccamp working group that you 
may want to check out.

Also you might have seen the recharter of ccamp earlier today on the 
iesg list, see below.

Best regards,
Cees.




>
>
>All the best,
>
>Victor


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A modified charter has been submitted for the Common Control and
Measurement Plane (ccamp) working group in the Routing Area of the IETF.
The IESG has not made any determination as yet.  The modified charter is
provided below for informational purposes only.  Please send your comments
to the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by Thursday, July 17, 2008.

Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp)
--------------------------------------------

Last Modified: 2008-07-10

Current Status: Active Working Group

Chair(s):
     Adrian Farrel <adrian at olddog.co.uk>
     Deborah Brungard <dbrungard at att.com>

Routing Area Director(s):
     Ross Callon <rcallon at juniper.net>
     David Ward <dward at cisco.com>

Routing Area Advisor:
     Ross Callon <rcallon at juniper.net>

Technical Advisor(s):
     Lou Berger <lberger at labn.net>

Mailing Lists:
     General Discussion: ccamp at ops.ietf.org
     To Subscribe: majordomo at ops.ietf.org
     In Body: subscribe ccamp
     Archive: https://ops.ietf.org/lists/ccamp


Description of Working Group:

Organizational Overview

The CCAMP working group coordinates the work within the IETF
defining a common control plane and a separate common measurement
plane for physical path and core tunneling technologies of Internet
and telecom service providers (ISPs and SPs), e.g. O-O and O-E-O
optical switches, TDM Switches, Ethernet Switches, ATM and Frame
Relay switches, IP encapsulation tunneling technologies, and MPLS
in cooperation with the MPLS WG.

In this context, measurement refers to the acquisition and
distribution of attributes relevant to the setting up of tunnels
and paths.

CCAMP WG work scope includes:

- Definition of protocol-independent metrics and parameters
   (measurement attributes) for describing links and paths that are
   required for routing and signaling. These will be developed in
   conjunction with requests and requirements from other WGs to
   ensure overall usefulness.

- Definition of protocol(s) and extensions to them required for
   link and path attribute measurement. Link Management Protocol
   (LMP) is included here.

- Functional specification of extensions for routing (OSPF, ISIS)
   and signalling (RSVP-TE) required for path establishment.
   Protocol formats and procedures that embody these extensions will
   be done jointly with the WGs supervising those protocols.

- Definition of the mechanisms required to determine the route and
   properties of an established path (tunnel tracing).

- Definition of management objects (e.g. as part of MIB modules) and
   OAM techniques relevant to the protocols and extensions specified
   within the WG.

- Work on traffic-engineering GMPLS mechanisms and protocol
   extensions to support source-controlled and explicitly-routed
   Ethernet data paths for Ethernet data planes that are already
   approved by an Standards Development Organization (SDO) with
   responsibility for the Ethernet data plane. It is expected that the
   primary SDO in this case is the IEEE. Note that the specification or
   modification of Ethernet data planes is out of scope.
- Work on GMPLS mechanisms and protocol extensions to support the
   transport profile of MPLS (MPLS-TP) in cooperation with the MPLS,
   L2VPN, and PWE3 Working Group and in coordination with the
   requirements expressed jointly by the IETF and ITU-T.


CCAMP WG currently works on the following tasks:

- Define how the properties of network resources gathered by a
   measurement protocol can be distributed in existing routing
   protocols, such as OSPF and IS-IS. CCAMP defines the generic
   description of the properties and how they are distributed in
   OSPF. The specifics of distribution within IS-IS are being
   addressed in the ISIS WG.

- Define signaling and routing mechanisms and extensions to allow
   path and tunnel setup and maintenance across multiple domains,
   where a domain may be an IGP area, an Autonomous System, or any
   other region of topological visibility. To this end, work
   cooperatively with the PCE and MPLS WGs.

- Define abstract link and path properties needed for link and
   path protection. Specify signalling mechanisms for path
   protection, diverse routing and fast path restoration. Ensure
   that multi-layer path protection and restoration functions are
   achievable using the defined signalling, routing, and measurement
   protocols, either separately or in combination.

- Identify which requirements for signaling and routing for
   Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON) are not currently met
   by protocols defined in CCAMP; based on these, define mechanisms to
   address these requirements.

- Produce extensions to the CCAMP WG protocols and RFCs necessary
   to create an MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS TP). The work on the
   MPLS TP will be coordinated between the MPLS, L2VPN, PWE3, and CCAMP
   working groups that are jointly chartered to do MPLS TP work.


In doing this work, the WG will work closely with at least the
following other WGs: MPLS, L2VPN, PWE3, ISIS, OSPF, IDR, L1VPN and PCE.
The WG will also cooperate with the ITU-T and the IEEE 802.1.

Goals and Milestones:

Done    Post strawman WG goals and charter
Done    Identify and document a limited set of candidate solutions for
         signalling and for measurement. Among candidate control solutions

         to be considered are the existing GMPLS drafts.
Done    Build appropriate design teams
Done    Submit WG document defining path setup portions of common
         control plane protocol
Done    Submit WG document defining common measurement plane protocol
Done    Submit LMP MIB to IESG
Done    Submit protection & restoration documents to IESG
Done    Submit ASON signaling requirements doc to IESG
Done    Submit GMPLS MIBs to IESG
Done    Produce CCAMP WG document for generic tunnel tracing protocol
Done    Produce CCAMP WG document for multi-area/AS signaling and
         routing
Done    Submit ASON routing requirements doc to IESG
Done    Submit revised charter and milestones to IESG for IESG
         consideration of more detailed deliverables and determination
         of usefulness of continuation of WG
Done    First version WG I-D for Advertising TE Node Capabilities in
         ISIS and OSPF
Done    First version WG I-D for Automatic discovery of MPLS-TE mesh
         membership
Done    Submit ASON Routing evaluation I-D for IESG review
Done    Cross-WG review of I-D for Advertising TE Node Capabilities in
         ISIS and OSPF
Done    First version WG I-D MPLS to GMPLS migration strategies
Done    First version WG I-D Requirements for Multi-Layer and Multi-
         Region Networks
Done    First version WG I-D for Evaluation of existing protocols for
         MLN/MRN
Done    First version of WG I-D for ASON Routing solutions
Done    Submit RSVP-TE extensions for inter-domain signaling I-D for
         IESG review
Done    Submit Per-domain path computation signaling I-D for IESG review
Done    First version of WG I-D for OSPF-TE/GMPLS MIB module
Done    Submit GMPLS signaling in support of Call Management I-D for
         IESG review
Done    First version WG Informational I-D for Analysis of inter-domain
         issues for disjoint and protected paths
Done    Submit I-D for Advertising TE Node Capabilities in ISIS and OSPF
         for IESG review
Done    First version WG I-D for Protocol solutions for MLN/MRN
Done    Submit GMPLS/ASON lexicography I-D for IESG review
Done    First version WG I-D MPLS-GMPLS interworking requirements and
         solutions
Done    Submit LSP Stitching I-D for IESG review
Done    Submit I-D for Automatic discovery of MPLS-TE mesh membership
         for IESG review
Done    First version WG I-D GMPLS OAM Requirements
Done    Submit GMPLS routing and signaling interoperability advice I-D
         for IESG review
Done    Submit MPLS to GMPLS migration strategies I-D for IESG review
Done    Submit Requirements for Multi-Layer and Multi-Region Networks
         I-D for IESG review
Done    Submit MPLS-GMPLS interworking requirements and solutions I-D
         for IESG review
Done    Submit Evaluation of existing protocols for MLN/MRN for IESG
         review
Done    First version WG I-Ds for GMPLS source-controlled and
         explicitly-routed Ethernet networks
Done    Submit Informational I-D for Analysis of inter-domain issues for
         disjoint and protected paths for IESG review
Aug 2008    First version of Working Group draft providing Control Plane
             Framework for MPLS-TP
Sep 2008    Submit OSPF-TE/GMPLS MIB module for MIB doctor and IESG
             review
Oct 2008    First version of Working Group draft defining RSVP-TE
             extensions for MPLS-TP
Dec 2008    Submit GMPLS OAM Requirements I-D for IESG review
Dec 2008    Submit ASON Routing solutions I-D for IESG review
Jan 2009    Submit protocol extensions for GMPLS source-controlled and
             explicitly-routed Ethernet networks for IESG review
Feb 2009    Submit Protocol solutions for MLN/MRN I-D for IESG review
Mar 2009    Submit Control Plane Framework for MPLS-TP for IESG review
Jun 2009    Submit RSVP-TE extensions for MPLS-TP for IESG review
Jun 2009    Recharter or close Working Group

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