[jsdl-wg] Fwd: JSDL 2.0 BOF?

[Andreas Savva]

Andrew,

JSDL-WG has been discussing seriously, as far as I am concerned, for the  
last couple of OGFs what to do once the Activity specification is  
done--now in PC so that's ok. There is a fairly well understood set of  
next steps. I'll outline the top two here:

1. SPMD 2.0
   - Start with an experience document for SPMD 1.0 and use the  
requirements generated for SPMD 2.0
   - Morris has the most comprehensive set of requirements, which he  
presented to JSDL-WG last March. One can say that there is some work along  
this path already, albeit very slowly. We need some additional involvement.
   - I'll take the blame for not starting the experience document over the  
summer. Busy with real work (tm).

2. Adoption of GLUE XML schema
   - Pending on a GLUE normative XML schema published by *OGF*. Work on  
this seems to have restarted recently, but I am not sure what the exact  
state is.
   - Requires cooperation with BES-WG since we have to narrow down to the  
set useful for job submission
   - GFD.137 outlines using GLUE and XPath/XQuery for resource  
requirements. Personally I *don't care* how requirements are expressed as  
long as there is sufficient consensus. This usually means that there are  
people willing to work on something...

I know people like to say 'JSDL 2.0' but, really, in the best tradition of  
divide-and-conquer there are a set of well-understood steps that can  
evolve things forward. As such I do not see the need for a BOF. I think it  
would actually be counterproductive because we'd go back to talking about  
what to do rather than doing it. The real question is whether there are  
people willing to work on these. A related question is whether they would  
be willing to work in JSDL-WG. At the last OGF it wasn't clear to me that  
this is the case.

Do you have other ideas on what should be at the top of list?

Andreas


On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:19:48 +0900, Andreas Savva  
<andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> [Posting on behalf of Andrew]
>
> ------- Forwarded message -------
> From: "Andrew Grimshaw" <grimshaw at virginia.edu>
> To: "Andreas Savva" <andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com>, jsdl-wg at ogr.org
> Cc: "'Mark Morgan'" <mmm2a at virginia.edu>, "'Morris Riedel'"
> <m.riedel at fz-juelich.de>
> Subject: JSDL 2.0 BOF?
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:09:53 +0900
>
>
> Andreas,
>
> I’d really like to have a JSDL 2.0 BOF/WG meeting in Brussels to  
> seriously
> start looking at how to upgrade JSDL to accommodate lessons learned in
> use. I’m sure you all have discussed this. Is there a plan on how to
> proceed? Or can I work with anybody on moving forward? JSDL has been very
> successful – but we need to keep up with new requirements of others will
> define their own specs.
>
> A
>
>
>


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Andreas Savva
Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd