[jsdl-wg] FW: comments on ideas that might be accomplished by extending JSDL

[Brisard, Fred D]

I forwarded this to the JSDL-WG membership so everyone can be aware of
our discussions.

Fred Brisard
fred.brisard at ca.com

-----Original Message-----
From: David A. Alexander [mailto:alexanda at txcorp.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 4:05 PM
To: Ly, An V
Cc: Brisard, Fred D; 'Johnson, Tony S.'; 'Jerome LAURET'
Subject: RE: comments on ideas that might be accomplished by extending
JSDL

Hi An Ly,

We have one reference implementation so far and that is our own Java
Application client (and a command line program) to access the STAR
Unified
Meta Scheduler (see http://www.star.bnl.gov/STAR/comp/Grid/scheduler/).

I have attached the RDL specification document that we have so far that
also
describes some use cases and our thoughts on the applicable situations
and
the possible limitations.

I would be good if we could collaborate in some.  For example, maybe we
could propose to make our effort a special investigation for or under
the
guidance of the JSDL working group or something to that effect?  I
noticed
in your last projection of what you would like to do with JSDL there was
talk of work flows.  We would be very interested to see how we could be
of
service in this area.

Thanks,
dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ly, An V [mailto:An.Ly at ca.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:45 PM
> To: alexanda at txcorp.com
> Cc: Brisard, Fred D
> Subject: RE: comments on ideas that might be accomplished by extending
> JSDL
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> I'm a member of JSDL and I reviewed the paper regarding RDL/TDL that
you
> sent to the JSDL group. The concept of a user-oriented/high-level way
to
> describe the (grid) job or its status is interesting. Would it be
> possible to get examples/use cases of your applications that are
> currently described/managed in the RDL/TDL-like manner?
> 
> Thanks,
> An Ly
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brisard, Fred D
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:44 PM
> To: Ly, An V
> Subject: RE: comments on ideas that might be accomplished by extending
> JSDL
> 
> 
> 
> Fred Brisard
> fred.brisard at ca.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David A. Alexander [mailto:alexanda at txcorp.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:35 PM
> To: ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk; andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com; Brisard, Fred D;
> darren at pulsipher.org; scrumb at ggf.org; asm100 at doc.ic.ac.uk
> Subject: RE: comments on ideas that might be accomplished by extending
> JSDL
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> I didn't hear back from anyone about my question.  I realize that you
> may be
> busy and it may take more time and effort to respond to an email than
it
> would to talk in person.  Therefore, would you mind if I called you to
> talk
> about the JSDL and how we our projects might be mutually beneficial?
> 
> Thanks,
> David Alexander
> Cell 720.581.6737
> 
> _________________________________________________
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> Tech-X Corporation             fax:  303-448-7756
> Boulder, CO            email: alexanda at txcorp.com
> (303)448-7751             http: www.techxhome.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David A. Alexander [mailto:alexanda at txcorp.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:30 AM
> > To: 'ali at epcc.ed.ac.uk'; 'andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com';
> > 'fred.brisard at ca.com'; 'darren at pulsipher.org'; 'scrumb at ggf.org';
> > 'asm100 at doc.ic.ac.uk'
> > Cc: 'Jerome LAURET'; 'Johnson, Tony S.'
> > Subject: comments on ideas that might be accomplished by extending
> JSDL
> >
> >
> > Dear JSDL Working Group Administrators & Chairs,
> >
> > We are formulating ideas on how to develop a "request language" (or
> what
> > in your community might be best termed a high-level request language
> that
> > a consuming submission system would turn into a workflow).  I have
> looked
> > at the 1.0 specification of JSDL and we have a lot of overlapping
> concerns
> > except that it says that workflow issues are out of the scope of
JSDL.
> > Attached is a short white paper on our idea as it stands.  We would
> > appreciate any comments on how you think we can collaborate or where
> our
> > ideas fit into your views of JSDL or other specifications that
already
> > exist.  We are not trying to re-invent the wheel.  However, we do
wish
> to
> > provide a way for Open Science Grid users to specify what they need
at
> a
> > high-level beyond the individual job.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David Alexander, Tech-X Corporation
> >
> > On behalf of our team that includes:
> > Jerome Lauret, Brookhaven National Lab
> > Tony Johnson, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________
> > David Alexander                desk: 303-448-7751
> > Tech-X Corporation             fax:  303-448-7756
> > Boulder, CO            email: alexanda at txcorp.com
> > (303)448-7751             http: www.techxhome.com
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