[graap-wg] minutes from 3/15 telecon

[Toshiyuki Nakata]

Hi: Found ways to just extract the updated part in an PDF File.

Best regards
Toshi

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Toshiyuki Nakata 中田　登志之
Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 
1753, Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, 
Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan 
Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035)
Fax +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Toshiyuki Nakata
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:26 PM
> To: 'Jim Pruyne'; 'GRAAP-WG'
> Subject: RE: [graap-wg] minutes from 3/15 telecon
> 
> <Begin Quote>
> - Comment row 21: On terminate operation: concern here is that there
>   may be penalties associated with termination, but this is domain
>   dependent.  Terminate might still be followed by a destroy
>   operation.  The proposal is also to introduce a agreement state
>   called terminated in section 7.1 that says that additional penalty
>   may associated with entering the terminated state.  Updates may
>   require changes in the schema (e.g. in section 9.5).  The new port
>   type for the terminate operation would be introduced around section
>   9.4.  We also need to introduce some discussion of the relationship
>   between terminate and wsrl:Destroy.  Toshi to start to pursue some
>   of these updates, and send the proposed changes to the mailing list.
> <End Quote>
> 
> Actually, most of the work had been resurrection of 
> previously deleted material, with the exception of 
> introduction of the Terminated State.
> (I am still not sure whether introduction of Teminated State 
> is good or bad.
> Eg. what would be the difference between killing an NQS job 
> using an  NQS script (in which case I suppose the Agreement 
> State would end in Complete and Using Terminate to teminate 
> an executing job?)
> 
> I do have a Word doc but excerpts from it may be easier to see.
> 
> Please note <<...>> means some words exist but has not been 
> changed so not included to make it easier to see.
> <<words>> are my comments.
> 
> Section 7.1
> 7.1 Agreement States
> The overall Agreement has a state derived from the Agreement protocol.
> * Pending. 
> <<...>>
> * Complete. The Complete state means that an Agreement offer 
> has been received and accepted, and that all activities 
> pertaining to the Agreement are finished This state MAY 
> follow Observed.
> 
> <<Begin Addition>>
> * Terminated. The terminated state means that an Agreement 
> offer has been terminated by the Agreement Initiator and that 
> the obligation no longer exists.
> This state May follow Pending or Observed. The fact that the 
> Agreement is in this state MAY imply that a domain specific 
> penalty is imposed.
> <<End of Addition >><<Please note that due to a race 
> condition, Terminated might follow Complete..>>
> 
> The Pending and Rejected states indicate that the responder 
> is not obligated in any way. 
> <<....>>
> The accepted Agreement is Complete only when all service 
> states are Complete, and the accepted Agreement is otherwise 
> Observed. 
> 
> <<Begin Addition>>
> The Terminated
> state indicate that neither parties are obligated.
> << End Addition>>
>  <<9.4 is mostly resurrection except for the wording 
> "Terminating an Agreement may result in domain-specific 
> penalty imposed on the Agreement Initiator."
> 
> <<Should may above be MAY??>>
> 
> 9.4 Port Type wsag:Agreement
> 9.4.1 . Operation wsag:Terminate
> Terminates an Agreement, if permissible. Terminating an 
> Agreement may result in domain-specific penalty imposed on 
> the Agreement Initiator.
> 9.4.1.1 Input
> The form of the wsag:Terminate input message is:
> <wsag:TerminateInput>
> xsd:any
> </wsag:TerminateInput>
> The contents of the input message are further described as follows:
> /wsag:terminate/xsd:any
> Any domain-specific content may be added. This content may be 
> used for a variety of purposes such as logging the 
> termination condition, or evaluating if a domain-specific 
> cause for termination is sufficient to permit the agreement 
> to be terminated.
> 9.4.1.2 Result
> The result of the wsag:Terminate operation is always empty.
> <wsag:TerminateResponse>
> </wsag:TerminateResponse>
> 9.4.1.3 Faults
> A fault response indicates that the termination was rejected 
> and may also indicate domain-specific reasons.
> 
> <<Adding Terminated state >>
> 9.5.1 Resource Property wsag:AgreementState The property 
> exposes an Agreement state for the whole agreement as defined 
> in section 7.1.
> The property has the following structure:
> <wsag:AgreementState>
> <wsag:Pending>
> <xsd:any##other/> *
> </wsag:Pending> ?
> <<...>>
> <wsag:Terminated>
> <xsd:any##other/> *
> </wsag:Terminated> ?
> 
> /wsag:AgreementState
> This element MUST have exactly one child from: Pending, 
> Observed, Rejected, Complete and Terminated to indicate the 
> overall state of the Agreement resource. Each of these states 
> for the entire agreement have open content so that additional 
> domain-specific state information can be expressed. The 
> individual states are as described in Section 7.1.
> /wsag:AgreementState/wsag:Pending
> An agreement state which is in state Pending.
> <<...>>
> /wsag:AgreementState/wsag:Terminated
> An agreement state which is in state Terminated.
> 
> I've also added WSDL definitions and Agreement Statetpes 
> Schema but won't put them here.
> -----
> Toshiyuki Nakata 中田　登志之
> Executive Chief Engineer, Central Research Lab. NEC 1753, 
> Shimonumabe, Nakahara-Ku, Kawasaki,Kanagawa 211-8666,Japan 
> Tel +81-44-431-7653 (NEC Internal 22-60035) Fax 
> +81-44-431-7609 (NEC Internal 22-60509) 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-graap-wg at ggf.org 
> [mailto:owner-graap-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf 
> > Of Jim Pruyne
> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:11 AM
> > To: GRAAP-WG
> > Subject: [graap-wg] minutes from 3/15 telecon
> > 
> > Are attached.  We'll meet next week at the usual time.
> > 
> > --- Jim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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