[glue-wg] GLUE2 enumerations

[Florido Paganelli]

Hi all

Sorry for lagging behind about this, in the summer I had some time but 
then everything became more messy here.

Let's see if I find the time by this or the next week. I must admit I 
got lost after the n-th "where shall we put documentation" discussion, 
felt a bit like a déjà vu after 5-6 years of inactivity :)

If I don't manage to follow up in the mailing list I may ask for a summary.

Cheers,
Florido

On 2021-01-27 20:42, Navarro, JP wrote:
> Greg and other GLUE2 WG members.
> 
> I recommend that Enumeration pull requests be merged 2 weeks after the 
> request when there are no comments or objections through the list.
> 
> If nobody else volunteers, I will merge on 2021-01-10.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> JP
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Corbett, Greg (STFC,RAL,SC) 
>> <greg.corbett at stfc.ac.uk <mailto:greg.corbett at stfc.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> In the hopes of kicking off some GOCDB/GLUE2 enumerations engagement – 
>> I have just opened a PR for a recent ServiceType request that came 
>> into GOCDB:https://github.com/OGF-GLUE/Enumerations/pull/19
>> Thanks
>> Greg
>> *From:*Jensen, Jens (STFC,RAL,SC) <jens.jensen at stfc.ac.uk 
>> <mailto:jens.jensen at stfc.ac.uk>>
>> *Sent:*Thursday, 30 July 2020 10:38
>> *To:*Florido Paganelli <florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se 
>> <mailto:florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se>>; OGF GLUE Working Group 
>> <glue-wg at ogf.org <mailto:glue-wg at ogf.org>>
>> *Cc:*Corbett, Greg (STFC,RAL,SC) <greg.corbett at stfc.ac.uk 
>> <mailto:greg.corbett at stfc.ac.uk>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [glue-wg] GLUE2 enumerations
>> Dear Florido,
>> Thanks for poking the list. Hmm you are right, it looks more than a 
>> bit sad��with some very old PRs languishing in there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now the spirit of OGF groups was always supposed to be the low barrier 
>> to entry, that someone could wander in and start doing work, and IMHO 
>> Greg and George are doing exactly the right thing by reaching out to 
>> standards organisations and international community etc etc. If the 
>> Old GLUE Guard has not fully lost interest, and I don't think it has, 
>> at least it should find a way to engage.
>>
>>
>>
>> While we're on the topic, Andre as your AD is also hopelessly 
>> overcommitted, sadly, so unless Andre pipes up and convinces me 
>> otherwise, I think we need to find you a new AD.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> --jens
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:*glue-wg <glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org 
>> <mailto:glue-wg-bounces at ogf.org>> on behalf of Florido Paganelli 
>> <florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se <mailto:florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se>>
>> *Sent:*30 July 2020 09:54
>> *To:*OGF GLUE Working Group <glue-wg at ogf.org <mailto:glue-wg at ogf.org>>
>> *Cc:*Corbett, Greg (STFC,RAL,SC) <greg.corbett at stfc.ac.uk 
>> <mailto:greg.corbett at stfc.ac.uk>>
>> *Subject:*[glue-wg] GLUE2 enumerations
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I haven't been following the progress in this group for quite a while,
>> as a matter of fact I do not even know if this channel is still official.
>>
>> I've been asked by Greg from UKRI STFC in UK (in CC) about the status of
>> the Open Enumerations registry at
>>
>> https://github.com/OGF-GLUE/Enumerations
>>
>> I recall David Meredith was taking care of merging pull requests but I
>> do not see any updated procedure anywhere and I think he is no longer
>> actively doing the merges.
>>
>> I wonder how we should go about it. Right now most of my research group
>> is on vacation and I do not know how much NorduGRID/ARC is interested in
>> being part of this. If Greg and UKRI STFC are interested in maintaining
>> the registry I will gladly give them rights to approve merge requests.
>>
>> My only complaint after a quick look at the current pull requests
>>
>> https://github.com/OGF-GLUE/Enumerations/pulls
>>
>> Is that some of the new strings are not all lowercase. I would prefer
>> they are all lowercase at least, to be consistent with the rest of
>> GLUE2. But I do not know what happened in GLUE2.1 and how much you kept
>> consistency. I must sadly say I lost interest long ago in the group
>> activities mainly for the lack of consistency in some that I believe
>> were critical decisions so my enthusiasm about the subject is low.
>>
>> About the pending merge requests, I think the namespaces in the pull
>> requests are all well formed, one should check case by case how much
>> they conform to the expected values and how good the descriptions are, I
>> remember we had different opinions about these details as well but I
>> forgot what it was about.
>>
>> I have the feeling the word ServiceType is overused as there is some
>> confusion about what is a GLUE2 ServiceType and what is a GOCDB
>> servicetype, but as said I've been far from this and lost track.
>>
>> I'd say from my side as long as it doesn't affect ARC/NorduGRID
>> negatively I don't really care about which strings end up in this 
>> registry.
>>
>> I think the main point is, was there ever consensus on this document
>> which defines formats and other similar things?
>>
>> http://redmine.ogf.org/dmsf_files/13224?download=
>>
>> Clearly not since the document suggest scheduled venues for the merges
>> that clearly never happened. Sad. But partly also my bad for not
>> following up.
>>
>> Would be nice to update such document and the information on github with
>> the actual procedure including pull requests.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florido
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  Florido Paganelli
    ARC Middleware Developer - NorduGrid Collaboration
    System Administrator
  Lund University
  Department of Physics
  Division of Particle Physics
  BOX118
  221 00 Lund
  Office Location: Fysikum, Hus A, Rum A403
  Office Tel: 046-2220272
  Email: florido.paganelli at REMOVE_THIShep.lu.se
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