[glue-wg] GLUE2 enumerations

Fri Jul 31 10:50:22 EDT 2020

Hi Alan,

I am a bit confused. Can you clarify why there's two github repos now? I see

https://github.com/OGF-GLUE
and
https://github.com/OpenGridForum/OGF-GLUE

You mean the latter is the actual official one?
I do not remember any longer how we got into the former one.

Also the former currently has well-defined teams as long as I can see. 
But probably they no longer make any sense.

How would you keep the two in sync if it makes any sense to do that?

Cheers,
Florido

On 2020-07-31 16:00, Sill, Alan wrote:
> For long-term maintainability, it might be valuable to move the official 
> GLUE files as well as the document source to the OGF GLUE WG pages 
> https://github.com/OpenGridForum/OGF-GLUE
> 
> We’ll be happy to provide full administrative access to the current 
> group leadership and sere as a focal point for maintaining this area 
> going forward.
> 
> Alan
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 3:41 AM, Florido Paganelli 
>> <florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se <mailto:florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 2020-07-30 22:50, Navarro, JP wrote:
>>> Hello Florido,
>>> Reviewing our last GLUE2 WG meeting on November 12, 2019 I see that 
>>> we have not made visible progress on GLUE 2.1 action items. That is 
>>> in part my fault which I’ll try to correct soon.
>>
>> I think some of the enumerations introduced with GLUE2.1 are not part 
>> of the list on github. Actually the github repo itself is far from 
>> complete. But I guess due to the best effort basis of this work we 
>> stick to the enumerations that are most important, I guess 
>> ServiceType_t at the moment.
>>
>>> As for the languishing Enumerations pull requests, since this GLUE 
>>> effort is purely volunteer, others can volunteer to review the pull 
>>> requests and merge them. If nobody volunteers, and we don’t hear from 
>>> David, I’m willing to help out.
>>> Would you be willing to review and accept the changes to your "OGF 
>>> GLUE2 Enumerations procedures and best practices” document so that we 
>>> can post it and make it official after a brief comment period? With 
>>> that document in hand it will be easier for myself or others to help 
>>> maintain the list of Enumerations.
>>
>> I can do.
>>
>> Once the procedure is clear I have no problem accepting pull requests 
>> and doing the merges from time to time. Of course others are warmly 
>> welcome.
>>
>> I also noticed a copy of the document is here in wiki format:
>>
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fredmine.ogf.org%2Fprojects%2Fglue-wg%2Fwiki%2FEnumerations_procedures_and_best_practices_v10&data=02%7C01%7Calan.sill%40ttu.edu%7C6f7a3037aac344878adc08d8352d9eed%7C178a51bf8b2049ffb65556245d5c173c%7C0%7C1%7C637317817371347451&sdata=bmczpbJ%2BJ10bgmN65UbVEZELmry1BsqYU9sUG%2BeUeMs%3D&reserved=0
>>
>> Which is referenced in the GLUE2.1 specification so it must be kept up 
>> to date.
>>
>> I guess the best is to keep that page and eventually change the 
>> version in the page but not the link.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florido
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> JP
>>> p.s. as you can see, we/XSEDE still want to engage and contribute to 
>>> the GLUE WG
>>>> On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:54 AM, Florido Paganelli 
>>>> <florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se <mailto:florido.paganelli at hep.lu.se>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I haven't been following the progress in this group for quite a while,
>>>> as a matter of fact I do not even know if this channel is still 
>>>> official.
>>>>
>>>> I've been asked by Greg from UKRI STFC in UK (in CC) about the status of
>>>> the Open Enumerations registry at
>>>>
>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FOGF-GLUE%2FEnumerations&data=02%7C01%7Calan.sill%40ttu.edu%7C6f7a3037aac344878adc08d8352d9eed%7C178a51bf8b2049ffb65556245d5c173c%7C0%7C1%7C637317817371347451&sdata=8%2FZvSnnVR8byKY70stTPOgqhZaQjLTIYMGMp8IzPOks%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> I recall David Meredith was taking care of merging pull requests but I
>>>> do not see any updated procedure anywhere and I think he is no longer
>>>> actively doing the merges.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how we should go about it. Right now most of my research group
>>>> is on vacation and I do not know how much NorduGRID/ARC is interested in
>>>> being part of this. If Greg and UKRI STFC are interested in maintaining
>>>> the registry I will gladly give them rights to approve merge requests.
>>>>
>>>> My only complaint after a quick look at the current pull requests
>>>>
>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FOGF-GLUE%2FEnumerations%2Fpulls&data=02%7C01%7Calan.sill%40ttu.edu%7C6f7a3037aac344878adc08d8352d9eed%7C178a51bf8b2049ffb65556245d5c173c%7C0%7C1%7C637317817371347451&sdata=g7qHWhHFTeoZFhhVPogU66MiPgU5O5cj0xA9I%2FaolCU%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> Is that some of the new strings are not all lowercase. I would prefer
>>>> they are all lowercase at least, to be consistent with the rest of
>>>> GLUE2. But I do not know what happened in GLUE2.1 and how much you kept
>>>> consistency. I must sadly say I lost interest long ago in the group
>>>> activities mainly for the lack of consistency in some that I believe
>>>> were critical decisions so my enthusiasm about the subject is low.
>>>>
>>>> About the pending merge requests, I think the namespaces in the pull
>>>> requests are all well formed, one should check case by case how much
>>>> they conform to the expected values and how good the descriptions are, I
>>>> remember we had different opinions about these details as well but I
>>>> forgot what it was about.
>>>>
>>>> I have the feeling the word ServiceType is overused as there is some
>>>> confusion about what is a GLUE2 ServiceType and what is a GOCDB
>>>> servicetype, but as said I've been far from this and lost track.
>>>>
>>>> I'd say from my side as long as it doesn't affect ARC/NorduGRID
>>>> negatively I don't really care about which strings end up in this 
>>>> registry.
>>>>
>>>> I think the main point is, was there ever consensus on this document
>>>> which defines formats and other similar things?
>>>>
>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fredmine.ogf.org%2Fdmsf_files%2F13224%3Fdownload%3D&data=02%7C01%7Calan.sill%40ttu.edu%7C6f7a3037aac344878adc08d8352d9eed%7C178a51bf8b2049ffb65556245d5c173c%7C0%7C1%7C637317817371347451&sdata=naJLJKUUBA%2B4Tkvv05yO5NYgywxf0YpaG%2BmN3NcxkCA%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> Clearly not since the document suggest scheduled venues for the merges
>>>> that clearly never happened. Sad. But partly also my bad for not
>>>> following up.
>>>>
>>>> Would be nice to update such document and the information on github with
>>>> the actual procedure including pull requests.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Florido
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>>>> Lund University
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>> Lund University
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>> Division of Particle Physics
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>> 221 00 Lund
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  Florido Paganelli
    ARC Middleware Developer - NorduGrid Collaboration
    System Administrator
  Lund University
  Department of Physics
  Division of Particle Physics
  BOX118
  221 00 Lund
  Office Location: Fysikum, Hus A, Rum A403
  Office Tel: 046-2220272
  Email: florido.paganelli at REMOVE_THIShep.lu.se
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