[gin-jobs] Standarized Execution Environment

Laurence Field Laurence.Field at cern.ch
Thu Mar 29 02:26:23 CDT 2007


Thanks Aleksandr, I have added this information to the wiki page.

Laurence

Aleksandr Konstantinov wrote:
>   Hello,
>
>  Thanks for explanation. In NorduGrid approach is a bit different. 
> In short nothing is predefined. Instead there is a minimal subset 
> of information about operating system and architecture propagated 
> through information system as properties on computing element. 
> And for rest we use approach called Runtime Environment (RTE). Those 
> include predefined set of anything user program should expect on 
> working node if requested in job description. List of currently
> defined RTEs with their description is available at RTE Registry 
> http://gridrer.csc.fi/ . Probably it would be possible to define 
> EGEE RTE.
>
> A.K.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:56:51 +0200
> Laurence Field <Laurence.Field at cern.ch> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Aleksandr,
>>
>> Of course, within EGEE we have defined our own environment, however, 
>> most other grid infrastructures have done the same. This is the problem. 
>> The functionality we are aiming for is the same but we have arrived 
>> there slightly differently. The aim is to understand the common points 
>> and agree on the same way to do things. The EGEE document is just a 
>> starting point for discussion.  I am currently collecting input on the 
>> following wiki page and already have some input from Teragrid.
>>
>> http://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/EGEE/WNEnvironment
>>
>> If anyone else would like to provide input for the discussion, please 
>> email me with the points.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Laurence
>>
>> Aleksandr Konstantinov wrote:
>>     
>>>   Hello,
>>>
>>>  Sorry for stupid question. Just want to understand an idea. Do You suggest 
>>> to apply very EGEE specific environment to other Grid infrastructures?
>>>
>>>
>>> A.K.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:41:46 +0200
>>> Laurence Field <Laurence.Field at cern.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> One of the problems that we found during the interoperation activities 
>>>> was with the different environments found on the worker nodes in the 
>>>> different grids.  Getting the jobs to arrive on the worker node is one 
>>>> problem, ensuring that the jobs run correctly is another and this 
>>>> problem has mainly been overlooked.  During the joint operations 
>>>> workshop in Bologna between OSG and EGEE this problem was brought up and 
>>>> discussed. The result was the following document which suggests 
>>>> standardizing the execution environment.
>>>>
>>>> http://edms.cern.ch/document/630962
>>>>
>>>> I have already scheduled a BOF at OGF 20 to discuss this issue further.
>>>>
>>>> Feedback on this topic is more than welcome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laurence
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