[fs-bof] Financial services API Working Group BoF

Sun May 13 05:52:29 CDT 2007

Hi Adam,

Thank you very much for your excellent presentation at the workshop
and thoughtful opinions on financial services activities.

Although OGF has set-up a BoF mailing, it is *not* a formal working
group yet. Bird-of-feather (BoF) is a vehicle for gauging interest
and readiness of the group.

It is very possible to use private consortia in London to define FS
API (at least version 1.0), since they already start working, it can
be the fastest way.

However, I think they can get the following benefits from OGF:
- Utilize multiple technical expertises in Grid Computing, they can
   use a part of existing API specification if they like.
- Save time to establish IPR agreement by using existing ones.
- Leverage OGF's recognition of well-known established open standards
   development organization.

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re:Financial services API Working Group BoF
From: Adam Vile <adam.vile at excelian.com>
To: bcohen at bway.net
Cc: "Dolan, Andrew " <andrew.dolan at citi.com>, chris.swan at csfb.com, 
"Swan, Chris (IT R&D)" <chris.swan at credit-suisse.com>, "Chris Allison" 
<chris.allison at citihub.com>, "Steve Crumb" <scrumb at ogf.org>, "Findlan, 
Shawn (IT)" <Shawn.Findlan at morganstanley.com>, "Cheryl Doninger" 
<Cheryl.Doninger at sas.com>, "Subramaniam, Ravi" 
<ravi.subramaniam at intel.com>, "Linesch, Mark" <mark.linesch at hp.com>, 
"Joel Replogle" <replogle at ogf.org>, "Strong, Paul" <pstrong at ebay.com>, 
"Andre Merzky" <andre at merzky.net>, "Christopher Smith" 
<csmith at platform.com>, "Barr, John" <john.barr at intel.com>, "Hiro 
Kishimoto" <hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com>
Date: 2007/05/11 18:36

> Many thanks for organising the meeting with the OGF. I wanted to clarify
> the discussion and state what I think are the actions. 
> 
> As you know there is an active group in London made up of vendors and
> customers looking at the possibility of establishing a standard API for
> Financial applications. This is being run by John Barr of Intel. At the
> last meeting the group made it clear that this is a pragmatic initiative
> and is to be driven through use cases. The aim has always to feed back
> the results to the OGF for standardisation work if appropriate. There is
> a resistance to using the OGF framework based around poor experiences
> with standards in general. The principle of this group is that the
> ownership of this process should be with the users, not with a standards
> body, but the project should contribute to the community through,
> perhaps, standards.
> 
> I took away the action from our meeting on Wednesday to discuss with the
> group the offer of the OGF to facilitate and provide a framework for the
> discussion. 
> 
> There was also the action to create a US focussed group with similar
> aims, and to share across both groups. I was not under the impression
> that this would result in the creation of a separate OGF working group.
> I think it is important to ensure that London and US groups are able to
> work together in an agile and flexible way.
> 
> The London group meeting is at the end of may and I will feed back to
> this mail list after the meeting on the action above. I don't think we
> should move too fast to create too many structures before having input
> from the existing London group. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> Dr Adam Vile
> Head of Grid, HPC and Technical Computing
> Excelian LTD
> 50 Featherstone Street, London, EC1Y 8RT
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hiro Kishimoto [mailto:hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com] 
> Sent: 10 May 2007 13:11
> To: Findlan, Shawn (IT)
> Cc: bcohen at bway.net; Adam Vile; Dolan, Andrew ; chris.swan at csfb.com;
> Swan, Chris (IT R&D); Chris Allison; Steve Crumb; Cheryl Doninger;
> Subramaniam, Ravi; Linesch, Mark; Joel Replogle; Strong, Paul; Andre
> Merzky; Christopher Smith
> Subject: Re: Financial services API Working Group BoF
> 
> Hi Shawn,
> 
>  > Let's just use Financial Services Working Group as the title.  I
>  > suspect we will have much more to discuss and collaborate on besides
>  > the API.
> 
> That's fine, let's call it "Financial Services Working Group" and set
> API spec as its first goal.
> 
> Next step is write up a WG charter draft.
> 
> Shawn: Please fill in the following on-line charter page. You need
>         GridForge account to fill this page.
> 
> - http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?new
> 
> The following is an example of charter documents of exiting WGs.
> - http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?review&group=rus-wg
> 
> Joel: can you set up mailing list (FS-BoF at ogf.org) and document archive
>        (GridForge Project Page,
>         https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/fs-bof/) for Shawn?
>         It is still in the air but I guess FS-WG can be under
>         Application Area.
> 
> Thanks,
> -----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
> -------- Original Message  --------
> Subject: Re:Financial services API Working Group BoF
> From: Findlan, Shawn (IT) <Shawn.Findlan at morganstanley.com>
> To: Hiro Kishimoto <hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com>, bcohen at bway.net
> Cc: "Adam Vile" <adam.vile at excelian.com>, "Dolan, Andrew " 
> <andrew.dolan at citi.com>, chris.swan at csfb.com, "Swan, Chris (IT R&D)" 
> <chris.swan at credit-suisse.com>, "Chris Allison" 
> <chris.allison at citihub.com>, "Steve Crumb" <scrumb at ogf.org>, "Cheryl 
> Doninger" <Cheryl.Doninger at sas.com>, "Subramaniam, Ravi" 
> <ravi.subramaniam at intel.com>, "Linesch, Mark" <mark.linesch at hp.com>, 
> "Joel Replogle" <replogle at ogf.org>, "Strong, Paul" <pstrong at ebay.com>, 
> "Andre Merzky" <andre at merzky.net>, "Christopher Smith"
> <csmith at platform.com>
> Date: 2007/05/10 19:30
> 
>> Hiro-san,
>>
>> Thanks for the follow-up.  
>>
>> Let's just use Financial Services Working Group as the title.  I
> suspect
>> we will have much more to discuss and collaborate on besides the API.
>> Thanks for the assistance with this.
>>
>> I also wanted to thank everyone for the assistance yesterday -
>> especially Bob for pulling this together.  I think it was a good
>> kick-off and I am sure we were all surprised by the attendance!
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>>
>> Shawn P. Findlan, Executive Director
>> MorganStanley - Strategic Engineering & Architecture | 750 Seventh
> Ave,
>> 15th Floor
>> E: shawn.findlan at morganstanley.com | P: 212.762.3046 | C: 203.554.6107
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hiro Kishimoto [mailto:hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com] 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:23 AM
>> To: bcohen at bway.net
>> Cc: Findlan, Shawn (IT); Adam Vile; Dolan, Andrew ;
> chris.swan at csfb.com;
>> Swan, Chris (IT R&D); Chris Allison; Steve Crumb; 'Cheryl Doninger';
>> Subramaniam, Ravi; Linesch, Mark; Joel Replogle; Strong, Paul; Andre
>> Merzky; Christopher Smith
>> Subject: Financial services API Working Group BoF
>>
>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>> As we discussed after the workshop on Wednesday.
>> Robert and I are very glad to shepherd your group to start and run
> using
>> Open Grid Forum's infrastructure and facility.
>>
>> Could you give me a (tentative) group name, e.g. Financial Services
> API 
>> working group (FSA-WG)?
>>
>> Once I got a name, I will ask Joel Replogle, Manager of Standards,
>> to set up mailing list (FSA-BoF at ogf.org) and document archive
>> (GridForge Project Page) for you.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ----
>> Hiro Kishimoto
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