[DRMAA-WG] Meeting minutes - Conference call Apr 14th
Peter Tröger
peter at troeger.eu
Wed Apr 14 17:34:30 CDT 2010
Participants: Roger, Daniel, Peter
> 1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?
Peter
> 2. Queue discussion (relationship to slot concept, relationship to
> machine concept)
- New slot concept is important on its own, regardless of queue
relationship
- DRMAA cannot assign any semantic to the queue term - could be
'waiting line' (non-SGE) or 'execution host' (SGE)
- SGE can have one job in multiple queues
- Practice shows that site admins sometimes describe queue semantic
in long queue names
- Stick with 'list of opaque queue names' approach
- From portal application view point, queueMaxSlotsAllowed is as valid
as queue name listing
- Implies no meaning for what a queue is, gives only maximum allowed
value for a job template parameter
- Daniel started to collect other possible queue monitoring
attributes on Google Docs page
- Getting information about queue - machine relationship is only
useful for debugging purposes, nothing for DRMAA
- Requesting a number of slots for a job in one queue has no
implication on number of utilized machines
- MPI vs. OpenMP case only depends on configuration aspects
- Question about relationship between user and monitoring list
information (e.g. list of queue names)
- Can be system view (qmon case) or user-centric view -> which
queues are available for me
- Decision for user-based perspective, also based on practical
experience in the field (Roger)
- Demands queue ACL checks in the DRMAA implementation
- Should be general approach for MonitoringSession interface
> 3. Parallel environment discussion (machine list availability,
> configuration name semantics)
- Configuration name proposal page looks reasonable
- Mapping execution environment conditions is clearly an
installation / site-specific issue
- DRMAA should only provide name proposals and their meanings
> 4. Support for core file fetching
- Basic assumption that core file ends up in the working directory
- Problem: Staging is over when the JobInfo information is available
- Level of DRM system support for core file fetching is unclear
Best,
Peter.
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