[dmis-bof] Comments on the charter?

[William E. Allcock]

comments inline.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Kunszt [mailto:Peter.Kunszt at cern.ch] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:15 AM
> To: allcock at mcs.anl.gov; dmis-bof at ggf.org
> Subject: RE: [dmis-bof] Comments on the charter?
> 
> 
> hi bill
> 
> timeline looks ok.
> 
> i believe that the focus should be to standardize on an interface
> that can have immediate implmentations by invovled parties. i would
> prefer a pragmatic approach driven by the current needs and 
> capabilities
> in order to have interoperability between existing systems asap.

Right.  We want a short term victory, but we want to avoid any obvious
decisions that make it difficult or impossible to broaden the scope later.

> 
> maybe it would be interesting to specify in more detail what 
> the actual
> scope is - e.g. is it for transferring data between grid sites
> or to get files out and in of the grid as well (i would 
> prefer the former)

If by "between grid sites" you mean between two instantiations of this
service, then yes, I think that is what I was thinking as well, but had not
actually done so consciously, so am curious what others think?

> 
> best,
> 
> peter
> 
> ps. the WSDL we use for the transfer service in EGEE, i.e.
> the gLite File Transfer Service can be found at 
> 
> http://egee-jra1-data.web.cern.ch/egee-jra1-data/glite-data_R_
> 1_6_2/stage/interface/org.glite.data-fts-3.1.0.wsdl
> 
> the javadoc description of this is at
> http://egee-jra1-data.web.cern.ch/egee-jra1-data/glite-data_R_
> 1_6_2/stage/share/doc/glite-data-transfer-interface/html/i
> ndex.html
> 
> (look only at 'fts')
> we also have administrative interfaces and interfaces that give
> you statistics on the transfers ongoing. that may be already out
> of scope though.

hmmm.... I would argue that you can't have one of these service be useful
without such information, but that is not what I would classify into the
admin interface.  To me the admin interface is things like what sites do I
ACCEPT|DENY, how many resources are available, etc..

Bill
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dmis-bof at ggf.org [mailto:owner-dmis-bof at ggf.org] 
> > On Behalf Of William E. Allcock
> > Sent: 25 October 2005 16:56
> > To: dmis-bof at ggf.org
> > Subject: [dmis-bof] Comments on the charter?
> > 
> > I haven't received any comments on the charter.  I would love 
> > to believe that is because you are all waiting to have your 
> > computers repaired after weeping uncontrollably on your 
> > keyboards due to the beauty of the prose...
> > unfortunately, it is more likely that you have not taken time 
> > out of your insanely hectic schedule to review it :-).
> > 
> > Please do so.  It wont take long.  I opted for very little 
> > prose and then a timeline.  If people could comment on if 
> > they think the text is sufficient, and more importantly on 
> > whether the timeline is reasonable and has the right things 
> > in it, that would be wonderful.
> > 
> > Please remember, this can only be a success if we have 
> > participation from a variety of groups.  Particularly for 
> > this one since we have competing existing implementations, 
> > and we will need to get some momentum behind this to get 
> > people to change and conform.  They have to believe it 
> > provides some advantage to do so...
> > 
> > So, now! quick! before another email distracts you! read it! 
> > send me comments! I attached it again to this email to make 
> > it *REALLY* easy!
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > I had the above as "shouting", but then wondered how many 
> > spam filters would tag it as spam...
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
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