[DFDL-WG] Call minutes for 2024-04-18

[Steve Hanson]

Apologies for missing the call. I had intended to be present but missed the
alarm.

Steve

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 9:27 PM Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle at apache.org> wrote:

> +1 for create a separate private repo from me.
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 3:54 PM Sill, Alan <Alan.Sill at ttu.edu> wrote:
>
>> We're still proceeding on the assumption that new versions or revisions
>> to the spec will be developed under OGF, and only when ready for submission
>> to ISO would we go to them with a new version. But I do think we should
>> respect their restrictions regarding not making the ISO-published versions
>> publicly accessible. So we should create a private repository for the
>> restricted documents to keep them off of the public Internet, but I don't
>> see any need for other adjustments yet.
>>
>> Does this sound like a good approach?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle at apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, reconciling the OGF processes with any ISO requirements is a
>> next step, as is updating various pages to call out the ISO/PAS
>> relationship and correspondence of GFD.240 with ISO/IEC 23415:2024.
>>
>> re: "given the ISO restrictions" you are referring to the limited access
>> restrictions on the proof copy of the spec? Or something else?
>>
>> If you think any OGF working docs pre-drafts we create can be public, but
>> ISO-flavor-thereof should not be (for brand protection or just control
>> reasons), then yes we need a private repo for that.
>>
>> There's more issues like this. On the DFDL call today on our agenda is
>> always the statement that everything must follow the OGF Intellectual
>> Property rules, but that raises the concern of how does that need to evolve
>> for us to smoothly interoperate with ISO also? Does the reminder statement
>> need to change? As part of setting up OGF as a PAS submitter I am sure you
>> guys worked through a bunch of this stuff. We need the short course on your
>> conclusions from that analysis. (If this is written up anywhere I can RTFM)
>>
>> I think the w3c pas faq is helpful: https://www.w3.org/2010/04/pasfaq
>> We need something like this.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:56 PM Sill, Alan <Alan.Sill at ttu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Good day Mike,
>>>
>>> OGF's processes are public, but given the ISO restrictions, should we
>>> make a private repository on GitHub and move the ISO-process folder in
>>> that? You can then share access to that to the DFDL group only. (I believe
>>> the current DFDL repository is public.)
>>>
>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 11:45 AM, Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle at apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
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>>> Call minutes are here:
>>> https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/calls/2024/2024-04-18_DFDL-WG-Call.md
>>>
>>> A proof-copy of the ISO version of the DFDL spec is here:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/OpenGridForum/DFDL/blob/master/ISO-process/ISO_IEC%2023415_2024%20ed.1%20-%20id.87444%20Publication%20PDF%20(en)-ASill-MBeckerle.pdf
>>>
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