[DFDL-WG] [wg-all] Repeating groups in DFDL

[Steve Hanson]

Yes we need  a friendly way of saying 'I am the last item' when using 
occursCountKind is 'parsed'. 

But with what we have today, could we use a discriminator on the repeating 
element that fails when the indicator of the previous repeat was 0 ? So 
speculation starts to parse the thing after the last repeat on the 
assumption it is another repeat and then fails and backtracks.

<dfdl:assert>{if dfdl:position() eq 1 then true else if 
'./present[dfdl:position()-1]' eq 0 then false else true}</dfdl:assert>

Regards

Steve Hanson
Architect, Data Format Description Language (DFDL)
Co-Chair, OGF DFDL Working Group
IBM SWG, Hursley, UK
smh at uk.ibm.com
tel:+44-1962-815848



From:
"Mike Beckerle" <mbeckerle.dfdl at gmail.com>
To:
"'Ryan Farrell'" <ryan.farrell.ctr at nrl.navy.mil>, <dfdl-wg at ogf.org>
Date:
22/07/2011 23:44
Subject:
Re: [DFDL-WG] [wg-all] Repeating groups in DFDL
Sent by:
dfdl-wg-bounces at ogf.org



Great example Ryan,

We've spent quite a bit of time over the last several months on textual
formats with these kinds of characteristics, which I would describe as
"occurrances determined by parsing" - that is, you look at the data to
determine "is there another element or not" one by one as they are parsed.

We need to make sure the properties are there to make this work for the
binary case as well. 

I actually believe we cannot handle this format right now. We don't have a
property which says to look at the current element to determine whether to
expect a subsequent element, as a way of determining occurrence counts. 

Next week we'll add resolving this example to the workgroup actions list. 

...mikeb

Mike Beckerle
Senior Technology Leader/Manager
Deloitte Managed Analytics
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-----Original Message-----
From: dfdl-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:dfdl-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf 
Of
Ryan Farrell
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:12 PM
To: dfdl-wg at ogf.org
Subject: [DFDL-WG] [wg-all] Repeating groups in DFDL

For anyone that was at the 19/07  phone meeting, this is what Adam Fox 
and I were trying to find a solution to. If anyone knows of a solution, 
please contact me or adam.fox at nrl.navy.mil.

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Please see the attached xml schema while reading this message.

The problem we want to solve is how to represent a structure that can 
have a variable amount of occurences (even zero), and the amount of 
repeats is controlled by a one bit field, which we will call"repeatBit". 
The repeating structure in this case is "A1". The element before it, 
"presentBit", determines if there is at least one occurence of A1. If 
presentBit is zero, then A1 has zero occurences. If presentBit is one, 
then A1 has AT LEAST one occurence.

The first element in A1 is "repeatBit". What repeatBit does is tells us 
if there will be another occurence of A1 after the current occurence. 
When repeatBit is zero, then that means we will read through the rest of 
A1, then that is the last occurence of A1. As long as repeatBit 
continues to be one however, we will read through the rest of A1, then 
start a new occurence.

I have included all the known required DFDL notation. Please let me know 
what is missing.

        EXAMPLE INPUT (results are in base 10):
        NOTE: Not all bits are used in these examples. Unused bits 
should be ignored for the purpose of the examples.

        1) 0111 0101
        presentBit = 0
        aFieldAfterA1 = 3

        2) 1011 1010
        presentBit = 1
        A1
        -repeatBit = 0
        -someField = 3
        aFieldAfterA1 = 2

        3) 1101 0110 0000 0000
        presentBit = 1
        A1
        -repeatBit = 1
        -someField = 1
        A1
        -repeatBit = 0
        -someField = 3
        aFieldAfterA1 = 0

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