[dais-wg] Notes from DAIS call on Tuesday 5 July 2005
Susan Malaika
malaika at us.ibm.com
Fri Jul 8 06:16:46 CDT 2005
Participants:
Amy Krause, Simon Laws, Susan Malaika, Norman Paton, David Pearson
Apologies:
Mario Antonioletti, Thomas Soddemann
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Action: Norman to publicize the following DAIS calls subject to feedback
from Simon regarding Friday (All times are UK)
- WS-DAI - 4pm on Friday 8th July
- WS-DAIR - 5:30pm on Thursday 14th July
- Derived Data Sets - 3:00pm on Friday 22nd July
- WS-DAIX - 4pm Thursday 28th July
Action: Simon to change Data Conduit to WSRF Data Resource in WS-DAI
specification
Action: Norman and the DAIS specification team to investigate WS-Naming
and the OGSA profile and their potential relationship with DAIS
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The first part of the call was to brief Simon Laws who was not at GGF
Norman Paton said:
- Basic lesson from GGF14 is to proceed
- No major feedback
Simon asked about Conduit:
- Norman suggested the term "WSRF Data Resource" as an alternative to
Conduit .
- Some resources are identified by an abstract name and others by WSRF
naming mechanisms "WSRF Data Resource"
Simon pointed out that the Conduit (now "WSRF Data Resource") has an
extensible mechanism for properties to enable realizations to be handled -
rather than associating a properties document with a port type as in
WSRF. Norman said that had not been especially noted.
Dave Pearson pointed out that OGSA profiles have to do with WSRF
Norman Paton re-capped that there was no major feedback from GGF14, other
than terminology
Simon asked about OGSA-Data sessions. Norman responded
(1) Data Movement - The session was abstract and high level
(2) Data Architecture Overview - No major issues
(3) Data Transactions - Agreed that data services are orthogonal to
transactions
Simon reported on WS-DAI
- Need to sort out terminology
Susan Malaika reported WS-DAIR
- Ensure consistency with WS-DAI
- Close GridForge open issues
- Check on DMTF Namespace
Amy Krause reported WS-DAIX
- Need to add the WSDL
We agreed we need a call on semantics of derived data sets and to validate
then across DAIS core and realizations
Characteristics that a derived data sets need to be examined. Consider two
scenarios:
- retrieving data in one shot and creating derived dataset
- retrieving data through a cursor and creating derived dataset while
cursor open
We agreed Norman's July target submission date precarious and may need to
submit in August
- Dave Pearson is out from 27th July - (Dave Pearson will review the
specifications)
- Simon out three days next week
- Amy out for a week from the 15th July
Simon mentioned Objectivity person he met - He is quite interested WS-DAIO
and plans to join the DAIS calls
Thomas is going to tighten up the WS-DAIO document so it can be used to
recruit people
During AOB Norman discussed:
- Reference Implementations - in particular will be getting started later
on XML implementation at Manchester because of two tasks and one body
scenario (person assigned had left Manchester)
Susan Malaika
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