hi dal
   On Tue, Apr 12, 2022, 11:11 PM <[1]dal@riseup.net> wrote:

     Hi Karl,
     You mentioned on the list something about prioritizing EEG testing.
     You

   yayay EEG :)

     envision because maybe to monitor phone EEG requires certain types
     of

   i'm on the fence about phones for doing this. dangerous devices but
   they're common and tend to have pre-existing software. big opportunity
   for data corruption with so much going on in a phone. but they can also
   access a blockchain.

     EEG measuring gadgets. I think it's something people in the world
     would
     care about, nobody really wants shooting

   oh let's do it

     wars except when they're really
     angry and lashing out and can't think of how

   not sure what you're referring to

     calm down safely and sufficiently to cease lashing out, anger, etc.
     There's that famous John Lennon song "Imagine" about "Imagine all
     the
     people living life in peace" and I think hippies usually don't hear
     the
     "ALL the people" part which is what probably strikes the ears of

   I don't know why anybody would think soldiers aren't included. Hippies
   really do mean ALL the people. Really, even soldiers.
   I thought the anger was because soldiers perceived the hippies as if
   they wanted to not defend people who are in danger. This can be an easy
   miscommunication as hippies are rarely aware of any reasons for war.

     soldiers. I would like to learn what cypherpunks list people
     sincerely
     hear in that sentence line of Lennon's, like which phrases are most
     salient for them?

   When I hear you speak of spreading, reason-oriented calm, I feel calm.

     I had a funny experience getting on a bus a while back. I was polite
     getting on and paid the fare in old-fashioned currency. I sat up
     front

     and became a good Kool-Aid drinker of the bus-driver's little
     many-wheeled fiefdom. Then someone

   "This bus is my kingdom! An extension of my body. Be one as my parts."
   Everybody needs a small kingdom, I suppose.

     attempted to board the vehicle as it
     was just past time for departure. This messed-up guy didn't have
     enough
     money and seemed a bit out of sorts. The bus-driver chewed him out.

   "I'm trying to make the traffic jam disperse and lengthen the schedule
   so you can get to the next stop on time, but all I can hear is this
   couple fighting and it's so bumpy back here!"

     Normally I would have rooted for the messed-up guy, this disabled
     and
     poor person, but because I had paid and

     boarded successfully, I felt a
     little full of myself, which made a Kool-Aid drinker of this
     bus-driver's many-wheeled fiefdom. Things like this happen to all of
     us.

   This strange experience that of two people struggling in very different
   ways, one could be more right than another.
   Kool-Aid.
   [of course the disabled person is more in need, it's the political
   influence affecting our feelings and habits]

     So then I reminded myself of things I was grateful for and enjoyed
     the

   This is nice :)

     view of the ride. I hope we can all do these things, all of us
     Earthlings, so that all those words of Lennon's come true, not just
     the
     parts some political factions prefer over others.

   we need our religions (in moderation), but it's clear that lennon meant
   absolutely no harm, he just had his zeitgeist. i'm sure soldiers might
   claim that we need our war, and also couch it with moderation.

     I really would like the list's sincere thoughts on this. So often,
     it's
     just people being angry and smug and sarcastic and attacking at each
     other. And I'm not sure that's really helping the world. Maybe it
     does
     in the short-run here or there but not so much in the long run.

   do you mean to include eeg?
   I love your idea of keeping peace through kool-aid. Combined with EEG.
   This idea seems quite helpful.
   I use a muse headband, very comfortable for long use, very few eeg
   channels, unencrypted, uses an ascii serial control protocol and
   bluetooth. It has a meditation app which I've disassembled once for
   protocol details but never used.
   The meditation app helps one experience calm I infer.

References

   1. mailto:dal@riseup.net