On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 8:13 AM, Stefan Claas wrote: --------- Original Message ---------- On Sun, January 30, 2022 at 8:15 PM, [1]grarpamp@gmail.com wrote: On 1/30/22, jim bell wrote: > Quantum Computing Threatens Everything — Could it be Worse Than the > Apocalypse? > >> [2]https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/404091 > >> Jim Bell's comment: >> Headline sounds overblown, but... >What are peoples current estimated years for when QC will... a) Break some of today's modern yet non-PQC cryptosystems? I seem to recall that cryptosystems based on multi-dimensional lattices are thought to be quantum-resistant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice-based_cryptography?wprov=sfla1 From that: "Lattice-based cryptography is the generic term for constructions of [3]cryptographic primitives that involve [4]lattices, either in the construction itself or in the security proof. Lattice-based constructions are currently important candidates for [5]post-quantum cryptography. Unlike more widely used and known public-key schemes such as the [6]RSA, [7]Diffie-Hellman or [8]elliptic-curve cryptosystems, which could, theoretically, be [9]easily attacked by a [10]quantum computer, some lattice-based constructions appear to be resistant to attack by both classical and quantum computers. Furthermore, many lattice-based constructions are considered to be secure under the [11]assumption that certain well-studied [12]computational lattice problems cannot be solved efficiently." (End of quote) An RSA-type system depends on the difficulty of factoring a huge composite number, but I think that involves only one 'degree of freedom'. That is, as your guess for one factor goes up, the other goes down. However, finding distances in a large-dimensional lattice might involve as many degrees of freedom as dimensions, or maybe (dimensions minus 1). Perhaps this is what would defeat quantum calculations. References 1. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com 2. https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/404091 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_primitive 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_(group) 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography 6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem) 7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie-Hellman 8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic-curve_cryptography 9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor's_algorithm 10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing 11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_hardness_assumption 12. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lattice_problem