Thanks for advice :) i will read the book when i have more time:)

   Açık Pzt, Ara 27, 2021 21:00, Stefan Claas
   <[1]spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> yazdı:

     On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:14 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0
     <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
     >
     > On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:55:09 +0100
     > Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
     >
     > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 5:44 PM zeynepaydogan
     > > <zeynepaydogan@protonmail.com> wrote:
     > > >
     > > >
     https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/chaoscomputerclub-kongress-101.html
     > > >
     > > > Auch in diesem Jahr findet der Kongress des Chaos Computer
     Clubs wegen der Pandemie lediglich digital statt. Das Thema
     IT-Sicherheit steht diesmal im Mittelpunkt - aber auch, wie man
     Hacker besser schützen kann, die Sicherheitsmängel melden.
     > >
     > > Thanks Zeynep,
     > >
     > > IMHO there will be never IT security because devices for digital
     communications
     > > and their software are *consumer* goods.
     >
     >
     > There will never be security for the users because the
     manufacturer is the government. Jim Bell's government.
     >
     >
     > >
     > > Hacker's may think of 'renaming' their status and become
     officially
     > > penetration testers.
     >
     >
     > Exactly. They are just govcorp turds working for govcorp.
     >
     >
     > >
     > >
     > > Regarding the CCC. I remember them from the beginning and
     remember from that
     > > time that they had also 'moles' among them,
     >
     > shocking.
     >
     >
     > > without knowing it and nowadays, they stay in bed with our
     political parties and main stream media, so it seems. For real
     hackers IMHO a no go.
     >
     >
     > indeed, it doesn't take much research to learn that the CCC is
     just a branch of the CIA.
     I like to add to this, that my guess is, due to those
     above-mentioned
     design flaws,
     that only Hacker Units from Russia, China, North Korea etc. can
     'survive', because
     they are IMHO somehow protected.
     And for a nice reading about a hacker or as a movie, if people still
     can get it,
     I recommend Clifford Stoll's book.
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg_(book)
     Regards
     Stefan

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