Stefan, I read your reply here as an attempt to disregard and devalue
   what I was mentioning, and I was thinking, and realised that usually
   people are just not considering the same things.  It's hard to remember
   this, and I'm sorry I interpreted you this way.
   On Sun, Dec 5, 2021, 12:08 PM Stefan Claas
   <[1]spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

     On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 5:08 PM Karl <[2]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
     Hi Karl,
     > > - Stefan's email account also talks strangely, often expressing
     overt
     > support of centralised tech without logical explanation.  I don't
     know
     > why anybody would do that.
     Not sure what you mean. I always supported decentralization
     in the global and centralized Internet (a mesh that spans
     around the globe as a single closed item,

   I don't see how "spanning the globe" is "centralized" or how the
   internet is "closed" and it's hard for me to take the expression
   seriously when I read it on this list.  I do see that there is a lot of
   bounding around e.g. the IP and TCP protocols and certain physical
   infrastructure, and that it's classist in that you need access to
   technology to use it, and how dependence on these introduces similar
   problems as centralization.  Is this what you meant?
   I still interpret the internet as a point to point routing system with
   fault management.  When that's not true, we see it as a break.

     compared to decentralized
     post offices where users can send an encrypted letter from
     country a to b while the rest can't intercept.)

   When you say "can't intercept" here, I don't know how to interpret it.
   Letters can be physically followed at a human pace and are poorly
   secured, and delivery is managed by government-ordered bodies that can
   be authorised to search them.  I've had my mail copied and also opened
   in transit, myself.  When I was a kid, I looked inside others'
   mailboxes for fun.  It's hard to encrypt an envelope, etc.
   I do think postal encrypted messages are really great and it's quite
   heartening to read of you doing this.  Far, far easier to hack your
   network interface to upload video of your face, than your stack of
   stamps and envelopes.
   Post offices strike me as centralised, messaging in general
   decentralised, maybe I am wrong.

     BTW. Not sure if you have access to a good library in
     your local area. If so, check out the book "The Matrix"
     from 1990, from John S. Quaterman, which shows you
     what decentralization is when it comes to global computer
     networks, compared to Democrat Al Gore's commercial
     Internet. ;-)
     > Hope you both are well, sorry you bumped.
     No problem Karl and I am fine.
     Best regards
     Stefan

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