On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 2:59 PM Stefan Claas
   <[1]spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

     On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 5:14 PM Karl <[2]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
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     > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021, 11:31 AM Stefan Claas
     <[3]spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
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     >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 1:44 AM Karl <[4]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
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     >> > do you argue against keysigning because of the dangers produced
     by spreading documentation of personal connections? it seems like an
     important trust mechanism to provide for people who can hold any
     risk of using it.
     I explained here a while ago why I like our German ID-card with our
     Governikus CA and not the WoT.
     So, in short CA signed keys yes but not so much WoT signed keys.

   seems the same to me, just fewer entities.
   how do I verify I have the real governikus signature?  what do you do
   if their key is compromised or misused?

     > I appreciate how spamming this channel gives me psychological
     relief and [memory aid, records are hard for me].  But I do need
     reality to escape my psychosis.
     If you have psychosis, I would consult a doctor for therapy and
     pharmacy. It should help.

   would you rather I not mention it?  what you say is obvious, but also
   there is not really an accessible full cure yet.
   there are two kinds of delusions:
   - those your brain makes up to replace what your senses tell you ("my
   great grandparent is still alive")
   - those others make up, and provide your senses, to mislead you ("your
   password is safe with me")
   to escape the second form of psychotic delusion, we must take effort in
   the larger world.

     > Your emails appear unsigned to me.  I assume this is because they
     are coming through some form of govcorp, manipulating us both in
     some way.
     If my emails would come from govcorp, so what? My emails only give a
     reply to an answer
     or have content that others may find useful. They should do no harm.
     :-)

   this is a good wot argument too, you can place trust on content

     Maybe you should take a long break from the grid and do something
     else, like a nice
     traditional hobby? :-)

   in progress!

     Regards
     Stefan

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