furthermore telnet [1]stimson.state.gov 25 telnet: can't connect to remote host (169.252.4.132): No route to host telnet [2]stimson.state.gov 80 connects so, at face value, nothing is listening on port 25 0.o is that a real log? The error message pertains to the host, not the port. I'm having experiences like that, too. References 1. http://stimson.state.gov/ 2. http://stimson.state.gov/