On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 3:24 AM grarpamp <[1]grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

     > We must defend our own privacy if we expect to have any.
     > Cypherpunks write code.
     > We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy,
     > and ... we're going to write it."
     GnuPG, and many networks, message systems, etc already exist...
     a magnitude above plaintext. Yes, go write improve make more.
     But none of that has done a single shit to "defend" or "preserve"
     realworld privacy since 30 years of write code. In fact there has
     since been colossal ongoing net LOSS of all forms of realworld
     privacy since then. Realworld tyranny doesn't give a fuck
     about your little private online utopias, it stormrolls over them,
     Traffic Analyzes them, pulls their plug, defunds, brainwashes,
     indoctrinates, infiltrates, coinalyzes, informs, plea offers,
     cracks,
     sybil's, and generally rubberhoses them all at will.
     Realworld still trumps online privtopia world.
     Now AP (more generally Prediction Markets, PM's in general being a
     tool for determining odds of many various outcomes and projects),
     PM's may be the only "code" even capable of exerting any real
     influence back into and upon the real world from privtopias.
     But even though any of the coins that can send an arbitrary
     text/data
     field along with the transaction can host a PM... no one has done
     any PM's of influence yet, on any platform.
     Not even Bitcoin the hardly private toy is doing any real influence
     yet
     other than bursting a few brain circuits in a few legacy GovCorpBank
     sters.
     > what are people doing on this mailing list who aren't
     > interested in information security
     Not quite. There are more than a few, and some
     very talented and experienced, infosec people here.
     > that can't write a code?
     Not quite. There are more than a few, and some
     very talented and experienced, coders here.
     Yet none of them have to tell.
     > I really wonder why this mailing list isn't being used for its
     purpose?
     Maybe it is.
     Maybe it is a privacy coin...
     The inputs to its output purpose do not have to be
     visible to everyone, nor even to anyone, for it to function...
     > I don't want to see government licks
     Lots of those here too.
     Did you "vote"... you're a GovLick.

   Voting does influence stuff, recommend continuing unless you're in a
   group being manipulated to oppress themselves or something, or can
   actually stay anonymous somehow if you don't.

     Did you pay "tax"... you're a GovLick.
     Did you get a "BirthID", a "driver license"... you're a GovLick.
     Did you choose Govt subsidized school... you're a GovLick.
     Did you use GovBank Fiat... you're a GovLick.
     Did you ... you're a GovLick.
     Did you not even open your mouth to anyone, in public discourse,
     in the realworld, against forms of Govt and "authority" and for
     freedom
     and privacy... you're a GovLick.
     > and nationalists here.
     Lots of those too, voluntary nations being just as fine
     as voluntary socialist, religion, whatever, etc, provided
     they're compliant.
     Yet people don't know voluntaryism, so they whine against
     the few free chosen NAP compliant associations.
     > This is the cypherpunks mailing list.Please speak on purpose here.
     Maybe lots have already given years to decades of it
     around the real world. Some at great cost and lost
     opportunity or ongoing risk. But they don't have to tell you of it.
     Are you paying people to write and speak code for you?
     Otherwise people freely give it as they wish or not.
     But oh so many crybabies crying for censor mod bans
     when the crybabies should go and filter their own mailboxes
     from the assholes, agents, spies, trolls, traps, pols,
     GovLicks, hacks, cracks, shills, trojans, influence, noise,
     and bayes markov tune it to just what they want to hear.
     And the worst...
     The crybabies are not writing and speaking code, they
     themselves are ones not adding to making the lists what
     they claim to desire to see. Not even posting articles,
     not even making cpunk commentary, not even demoing and
     reviewing the smallest simplest bit of any cpunk app
     running on that piece of GovLick Microsoft Windows
     or Apple Mac OS they are running.
     But they sure want everyone to talk all about it for them,
     to censor ban, etc.

References

   1. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com