Also sharing with list for archive and transparency. The email address I sent this from rejects emails from juan's provider. Sometimes punk takes the energy to send to another email address of mine, but I should have sent from it to make it easier. Ceci mentioned on-list giving chocolate to punk. Apologies if this is disrespectful. I don't know how to learn what is real. On Thu, Jul 29, 2021, 8:49 AM Karl Semich <[1]0xloem@gmail.com> wrote: juan, you and she were close friends? References 1. mailto:0xloem@gmail.com