I'm starting to notice how dangerous this list is.  The awareness may
   be temporary.
   On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, 10:01 PM David Barrett <[1]dbarrett@expensify.com>
   wrote:

   On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, 5:56 PM Karl <[2]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:

   On Mon, Jul 5, 2021, 8:48 PM David Barrett <[3]dbarrett@expensify.com>
   wrote:

   If so, can you help me understand why you support Sweden prosecuting an
   ordinary person, but you do not support them prosecuting Assange?

   I formed an opinion on that, now.  It's not the one you say I have.

   Ok just to confirm, does that mean you *do* support Sweden prosecuting
   Assange for sexual assault, irrespective of whatever happens with the
   US?  (I'm sorry, the double negative was confusing me.)

   Double negative?
   I abstain regarding the decision.  Others are better equipped to make
   it than me.  What's important is the circumstances in which the
   situation developed, and I'd personally like to focus on those.

   [Meditation for criminal cases] is actually

   I think autocorrect altered our conversation.  _Mediation_, not
   _meditation_.  Although if you were to take meditation in the "study
   and deliberate hard" way ("let me meditate on this exam question") it
   could likely help.

   available, just not in all the legal systems.

   To my knowledge, no nation uses meditation as you describe for criminal
   trials (eg, murder).  Are you saying that some do?  Can

   I vaguely recall that some small areas.  I don't have links.

   you point me to which you are modeling your recommendation on so I can
   learn more?

   Ask somebody familiar with transformative restorative justice for.
   They'll know more than me.
   I pasted you two audio snippets, the first one was from a war between
   multiple factions in Nigeria.  I don't think they're still doing it,
   but I don't really know.
   Some of my information was from the discipline of Convergent
   Facilitation, others from Nonviolent Communication.
   I'm sorry, I've been abused regarding this topic and wasn't prepared
   for your probing questions.  Maybe another thread?

   This is again a situation where [out current system] is usually better
   than [nothing], but [nothing] is better in cases of very frivolous or
   mis-ordered accusations.

   Ok!  This helps me understand your position!  You argree that our
   justice system is "usually" better than nothing, right?  This is
   important so I just really want to double confirm before I build on
   this.

   Where nothing is complete inaction, yes.
   Actual communication would be far better.
   But punk has a point that the justice system can also cause great
   injustice.
   I might need a couple days to recharge.  Maybe I should take better
   note when things get all debatey.  I'm honestly not trying to disagree
   with you; this seems a pretty inefficient way to come to shared terms.

   Thanks!
   David

References

   1. mailto:dbarrett@expensify.com
   2. mailto:gmkarl@gmail.com
   3. mailto:dbarrett@expensify.com