hi david On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 12:29 PM David Barrett <[1]dbarrett@expensify.com> wrote: "I'll fight with my life to prevent conflict" -- Said everyone starting every war, ever. That's not preventing conflict. Caps because it sounds like you didn't get my second line after that: DID YOU GET MY SECOND LINE AFTER THAT? Mainly I just think we need to tone down the aggression. Capitalism, democracy, society, That's always nice. Takes willpower and freedom. it works. Things are better than they've ever been in the history of the world, and they are getting better. Not perfectly, not equally, but What things do you see as better or worse, equal or inequal? We work to try to make the things you say be true. It is very hard work. I really yearn for earlier times, myself, but if we can be free to talk productively and effectively I think we can be free to accomplish anything. gradually and steadily over the long arc of history. I feel like we just need to appreciate what we've got and do the hard, thankless work of making it better and more inclusive -- and stop exaggerating the scale of the problems we face. We don't need revolution, we need evolution. It's slow, boring, and We need somewhere in-between. But we get the whole shebang ;p Everyone who talks is just trying to help everyone else. Sometimes it sounds violent or boring, it's just more important experiences and I'm good ideas being shared unskillfully. wonky. It requires patience and cooperation. And it requires respecting the institutions we've carefully built over centuries, and investing in making them better. Or mutating them to heal them? I'm big on respect but not on demanding specific solutions. At this time we need to protect people. People in institutions, and people being harmed by them. That's a dynamic situation needing relevant, contextual decisions. If I can discover that a local council is fully staffed by foreign spies trying to turn the local region into an occupying millitary, it may not be the most important institution to protect. But pretty important to preserve the history of. -david On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 12:17 AM Karl <[2]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 7:45 PM David Barrett <[3]dbarrett@expensify.com> wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:48 AM Karl <[4]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: > > his nazi 'laws' have any legitimacy at all? > > I'll try to answer a guess as to what you mean if you can stop giving me a > worse game to play. Everything has some degree of legitimacy. That's wrong. Criminals like barrett have no legitimacy. And neither has your Comments like this reinforce the need to respect and defend the actual institutions we have, as imperfect as they are. He's accused me, without evidence -- or even any statement of what supposed law I broke -- of being a criminal. We all need to push back on this kind of anti-democratic, anti-justice language whenever we see it. It's fine to disagree; it's fine to call the cops on me for whatever you think it is I've done. But to basically assert judgement without any investigation or process is to demonstrate a complete disinterest in justice itself. There's too much of that going on; silent people need to push back on this corrosive tactic. -david I'll fight with my life to prevent conflict and end blaming of others, if I can figure out how. Where are you at? References 1. mailto:dbarrett@expensify.com 2. mailto:gmkarl@gmail.com 3. mailto:dbarrett@expensify.com 4. mailto:gmkarl@gmail.com