On Sat, Jun 19, 2021, 6:24 AM Douglas Lucas <[1]dal@riseup.net> wrote:

     See below. Was digging through some old emails and stumbled across
     this
     old cypherpunks post.
     On 12/28/20 8:19 PM, Karl Semich wrote:
     > (psychosis is scary.  it causes slow well-documented brain damage.
     > the antipsychotics cause a different kind of brain damage, kind of
     a
     > pick-your-situation thing except where you have to pick one of the
     > antipsychotics.  they don't like to talk about those things.)
     Hi Karl, can you link me to, or provide bibliography for, that
     documentation of psychosis causing slow brain damage? I have heard
     that
     claim many times, but do not know if it is true one way or the
     other.

     Off the cuff, it seems likely to me that over time, with psychosis,
     or
     antipsychotics, or both, dopamine processing would become
     increasingly
     abnormal relative to the norm of, I don't know, people living off
     the
     land in a soothing nonindustrial environment.

   It's well documented that schizophrenia produces an increase of grey
   matter in some areas of the brain, and a larger loss of grey matter in
   other areas.
   [2]https://searx.webheberg.info/search?q=grey%20matter%20schizophrenia
   I'm afraid my actual bibliography is on a system that is presently
   difficult for me to access due because of symptoms of the current
   topic.
   This is some research from 2017 on detecting schizophrenia from a
   single MRI: [3]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6101559/
   With machine learning, they've been mapping these things successfully
   using a variety of metrics, not just grey matter and MRI.
   There was also a successful fmri neurofeedback study, where by
   identifying the pattern of a hallucination while in a machine, a
   patient could reliably be taught to prevent it.  Many other
   neurofeedback studies have been following it.  Sometimes you can find
   one accepting volunteers at [4]https://clinicaltrials.gov/ .
   I can likely find more papers for you if needed.  I have trouble moving
   around without having experiences similar to seizures.

     But the normies are also
     having their dopamine processing completely and dramatically
     disrupted
     due to addictive internet media of various types.

   When you live connected in the wilderness you quickly become a healthy
   genius.  There are few studies, but if you've found the various ones
   that have been done it's easy to see there is little funding and little
   publicity for such things.

References

   1. mailto:dal@riseup.net
   2. https://searx.webheberg.info/search?q=grey matter schizophrenia
   3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6101559/
   4. https://clinicaltrials.gov/