n Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 8:03 AM grarpamp <[1]grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

     The GoldBug Messenger fraud was already well documented
     on this and many other lists... they never defended the charges
     laid against them, just kept dodging and shilling their warez.

   I haven't found evidence of this in what my isp shows
   me.  [2]https://searx.be/search?q=site:cpunks.org+goldbug doesn't
   appear to display what you describe at all, to me, maybe you see
   something different.

     > [3]https://sf.net/projects/goldbug/files/bigseven-crypto-audit.pdf
     Anyone can write, post, print, and sell a bogus "audit".

     Good luck finding these so called "auditors" too...
     "David Adams (Tokyo)"
     "Ann-Kathrin Maier (Munich)"

   So I'm inferring that goldbug is real, and Adams and Maier are further
   endangered, now, and you were possibly hoping to protect them, not
   sure.
   Anyway the big fakes are crummy.  I can't tell what the story around
   an0n and ciphr are, but anything we can do to protect users is helpful,
   in my opinion.  It's obviously not always public good or justice
   guiding public discourse around cryptography, or guiding law
   enforcement.  It's clear intense pressures develop.
   I'm not expecting you to diss something like goldbug without backing it
   up incredibly well.  We appreciate your other privacy advocacy on this
   somewhat-stale list.

References

   1. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com
   2. https://searx.be/search?q=site:cpunks.org+goldbug
   3. https://sf.net/projects/goldbug/files/bigseven-crypto-audit.pdf