On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 5:05 PM lolwut <[1]lolwut9001@cock.li> wrote:

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     From: David Barrett [mailto:[2]dbarrett@expensify.com]
     Sent: Friday, 02 April, 2021 7:38 PM
     To: lolwut
     Cc: [3]cypherpunks@cpunks.org
     Subject: Re: GNU FSF: Richard Stallman Returns
     > On Fri, Apr 2, 2021, 4:04 PM lolwut <[4]lolwut9001@cock.li> wrote:
     >> that it, in effect, makes illegal
     > I'm a bit confused by the whole concept of "cancel culture".  You
     describe it as free speech being made "in effect illegal" by people
     expressing their concerns (eg, in this case calling for RMS to be
     removed from the board).  But aren't they just as free to speak
     their concerns, as the speech that created the concerns?  And isn't
     the board fully within their rights to listen to the those concerns
     and weigh them in their decisions?
     > Basically, is this actually a few speech issue, or do you just
     disagree with the perfectly legal decisions of the board, who are
     listening to the perfectly free feedback and concerns of the public?
     > David
     The main point was that I was criticizing the notion of
     "cyberbullying", because it's an idiotic concept that, if made into
     law, restricts freedom of speech. This criticism of mine persists
     outside of the particular RMS issue.
     I think that you are confused over the thing I was describing that
     makes free speech "in effect illegal": I was referring to laws
     against "cyberbullying", which is absolutely a form of censorship
     that reduces the amount of free speech; I was not referring to
     cancel culture, which does not make certain speech illegal, though
     it is nevertheless contemptible. Yes, I agree that Stallman's
     opponents are free to speak their concerns, and even insult him,
     which is why I took issue with the Molly de Blanc article that
     grarpamp linked to, because it is basically calling for censorship
     of de Blanc by means of the meme law of "cyberbullying". This is
     something that not even some moron of cancel culture deserves.

   Got it, thanks for the clarification!
   David

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