On Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 9:37 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0
   <[1]punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:

     On Sun, 27 Dec 2020 15:06:37 -0500
     Karl <[2]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
     > >
     > >         So quote me saying anything that defends the western
     political-economic powers in any shape or form.
     >
     > here:
     > > > >     yes and the answer is : I'm not spewing any nazi-jew
     nonsense. Or
     > you're spewing conflict,
             Again, provide quotations.

   Casting people as evil is an American strategy of ignoring people
   different from Americans, so you can sell the American way as freedom
   and luxury without caring whom it hurts.  "Nazi", which you just said
   with accusation, is a common enemy image taught in america.  "Jew" is
   held by a smaller group as an enemy image in america.  "Nonsense" is a
   thought-stopping word used in American media in ways that prevent
   people from listening to others.
   These things don't mean you're trying to defend america, of course.
   They mean you end up doing so.

             Whatever conflict there is comes from the fake
     libertarians/true

   "Fake" : disregards expressions of others

     technocrats/outright agents. I gave pretty

   "Agents": an enemy image held on this list

     concrete examples of the garbage they post,

   " garbage": an American media term causing people to ignore the
   expressions of others

     you ignored them.

   "Ignored" : blaming me, spreads divisiveness

     > turning people against each other, which is  how my nation keeps
     the status quo.
             So you cannot provide  evidence

   "So, you cannot provide evidence" happens after I quoted you, is an
   American political strategy of immediately changing the story, relies
   on the short attention spans of the population to work

     showing that I promote evil and now you're

   Here I see you trying to share honestly with me, but it's kind of over
   my head because of my short attention span and naive trust =/  I want
   to connect with you and I don't know how.

     just outright lying. The 'conflict' you want to

   You seem to understand better than me that because behavior is obvious,
   NOBODY CAN POSSIBLY LIE.

     avoid entails calling out the frauds on this list. I guess you want
     the frauds to be protected from 'conflict'?

   Everybody is doing this.  All of us.  You need protection the most
   here, because I tried to pin this murder on you.

             As to the way your nation keeps the status quo, they do it
     by commiting an endless string of all possible crimes from theft to
     mass murder to anything inbetween.

   "Mass murder?  You don't murder your family members to make profit!
   Oh!  Well I guess I'll be coming out on top, then."  Stop supporting
   our criminal decadence by helping us compete in our community wargames.

     And to state the obvious, I'm not doing anything of the sort. Last
     but not least, you're comparing me with the US nazi government? What
     is wrong with you.

   I take such expressions seriously.  Gotta get off this list.

     >
     > >
     > >         FYI, unlike any of the other posters here, I've done my
     homework regarding liberal political philosophy and I can defend it.
     The other posters  however are either outright fascists or fake
     'libertarian' posers.
     > it's rough to have to say everything backwards.  nobody ever
     understands you.
             Hard to know what you mean. The frauds on this list
     understand me well.

   When I was severely coerced I was forced to speak backwards and didn't
   understand it.  Then I was only able to talk about my torture in the
   language I was forced to learn, which denied it, and I got no help.
   I don't understand frauds.
   What you say doesn't make literal sense to me, but you saying that it
   is the only way to talk was how my torturers talked.

     > > > >     So hopefully the answer to your question shows how
     fucked this list is, and
     > > > > further shows that the problem has fuck to do with 'coding'.
     > > >
     > > > Why are we posting here?  You and I are posting here as part
     of a
     > > > brainwashing program, targetting the other hackers.
     > >
     > >
     > >         You and I are different persons, and are doing different
     things. And you obviously don't know what *I* am doing.
     >
     > With regard to what I'm a part of with you, I can't know.
             you meant to type "you can* know"?

   No.  Brainwashing teaches you not to know.

     Regardless, the claim that 'we' are both part of a 'brainwashing
     program' is sheer nonsense. If you want to claim that YOU are

   You're posting obsessively to a technofascist arpanet list, but I
   suppose you are more deprogramming us than brainwashing us =)
   Really it's one of things they do to targeted communities.  Expose them
   to intensely different values while suppressing people that " straddle
   the lines" value-wise, which disrupts the community handling the
   budding conflict.

     part of such a program, feel free, but don't speak for me.

   Just speaking for the spirit of America that we forced down your
   throat.

     > I'd force  myself to forget if I did.
     >
     > > > brainwashing program, targetting the other hackers.
     > >
     > >
     > >         Maybe you enjoy playing crazy, but you better not
     confuse your role playing with reality.
     >
     > Reality is way worse, and you know it.
             Another  obscure remark.

   Same to you.

References

   1. mailto:punks@tfwno.gf
   2. mailto:gmkarl@gmail.com