On Friday, July 17, 2020, 01:48:26 AM PDT, таракан wrote: >I doubt that someone in a country - X - will be able to access Starlink without the usual 'KYC" procedures... Will there be a single place of registration - online ? I doubt it. I think Starlink will have no right to provide access to citizens of country X You are writing like a Statist. "...right to provide access to citizens of country X" ??? I'd say, instead, "ability to provide access to people on the surface of the earth". There, that's better. >unless going via registered/accredited national operator Y from country X, which will apply any existing restrictive policy from country X. >Starlink will never allow a "wild" access to internet by satellite to anyone in the world. That's called a "prediction". Predictions can be right. But predictions can be wrong. >Starlink is brought to you by the same guy that brought the wonderful PayPal - the 'family' oriented electronic wallet. Does PayPal allow "wild" international money transfers? Of course not, better using Western Union. There are laws about money exchanges, and where it is necessary to have physical, in-country representatives, perhaps laws must be obeyed. (Or, at least, its harder to get around the "laws must be obeyed" rule. As we all know, digital cash (like Bitcoin) do an excellent job of getting around "the laws". >PayPal bends to any national regulation in terms of financial control and so it will be the same for Starlink,,, >NK may not be an example but many countries seem more to turn like NK than the opposite... >Creating a worldwide net using SW radio is possible but difficult. Need to build different radio systems and also to create efficient cryptography for them. They will never allow to play "online video games" but they can be used for the transfer of documenttaion, books, transfer orders.... scanned piece of arts, If that's practical, it will occur...in parallel to other systems. Musk said that StarLink / quote: " is “designed to run real-time, competitive video games,” I think that instead, in context, StarLink is CAPABLE of running real-time, competitive video games. In other words, due to its low-latency, StarLink WILL allow the use of "real-time, competitive video games." "I'm not sure musk is aware that real-Time video games would imply such games runs inside an operating system which is provided with a real-time kernel, but the point is that StarLink IS the TOY there :-) Why is "toy" significant? Manufacturing processes can be turned into toys. During the mid-late 1960's and early '70s, 'vacuum forming' and vinyl molding were both turned into 'toys'. I was aware, at that time, that these 'toys' were based on real manufacturing processes. >Imagine a group of people having only limited resources, able to access factories to produce "basic" electronic components ... they can build SW ground stations. They cannot build a StarLink ground station and they cannot produce or event repair a 3D printer which may be even more complicated. I don't expect such people to be able to construct a printed circuit board, populate it with components, and test it. But the size of the as-manufactured PCB should be small enough to allow smuggling into most nations. >What is the model? USA shining like a sun and bringing its light to every far remote territory of earth? This doesn't have to have anything specific to do with "USA". Yes, Elon Musk does a lot of his work in "USA", but that's not a limitation. Musk got "approval" from USA to launch a constellation of satellites. >I would rather see USA as a death star, bringing death and chaos to every corner of our planet. Then I suppose we must disagree. I don't think of this as a product of the USA: In principle, a large-enough company could accomplish this, limited mainly by the ability to launch satellites. It's been a long time since USA and USSR had some sort of monopoly on launching satellites. Today, the ability to do from ships pretty much breaks that monopoly to pieces: These launches can occur from virtually any latitude, which is the important thing from the point of view of creating a specific orbit. (One of the unfortunate compromises made in creating ISS (International Space Statiion) is that it had to be "reachable" from both Cape Canaveral and Baikonur, which is in Kazakhstan. The high latitude, about 45.5 degrees North, makes it harder (uses more energy) to achieve the same orbit as are achievable from Cape Canaveral, the latter being at about 28.5 degrees North.) >A real alternative worldwide internet system should not be based on the possibility to 'smuggle" technology from the USA to other territories I DON'T say it DEPENDS on those things. It's just that even where there are somewhat authoritarian states, they won't be able to keep StarLink out. >or to depend on a central commercial operator which will provide worldwide internet like it provided worldwide payments ... with PayPal... It would be possible for people to finance (pay for, even if that is necessary) free-for-the-user Internet service in authoritarian states.