‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:52 AM, таракан wrote: ... there is that sentence from Nietzsche that says 'Wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein' , in other terms if you fight monsters, do not become one yourself and if you look deep into the abyss, the abyss also looks deep into you. That say making lessons to the one who is rotting in jail is a bit too comfortable. this is the moral hazard of hacking: spend time violating technical boundaries, it becomes too easy to apply this tactic in all areas of life. given the overlapping set of cypherpunks and hackers, i see a similar siren song at play: gird yourself for battle against governments, and find yourself isolated in your all encompassing protections; alienating the very font of our own humanity... as you say, easy to cast stones from a safe distance. our turn in the crucible might be next! best regards,