On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 7:56 AM Zenaan Harkness <[1]zen@freedbms.net> wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 09:55:46PM +0000, jim bell wrote: > On Friday, June 12, 2020, 11:06:01 AM PDT, Punk-Stasi 2.0 <[2]punks@tfwno.gf> wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 05:43:33 -0400 > Karl <[3]gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Some of us want to sousveil the authorities, > > > well, surveill the authorities all you want. Put a camera in every cop's bathroom... > > > But that's very different from 'wearing' some device that records everything around you. That is not surveilling the authorities but spying on everybody within the reach of your cameras. > > > As a side note of sorts, the argument (just an assertion actually) that it's ok to record people on 'public property' is exactly govcorp's 'argument' eh? > > You apparently don't realize that when government does that surveillance, it generally only uses that data for the detriment of a citizen. If the information collected is embarrassing to the government itself, that information doesn't usually see the light of day. > I want to see that pattern changed. > Jim Bell It seems that the ability for randos in public to be able to whip out their 'tard-phone and record what's in front of them, is producing a few useful 'exposures of problems'. To this end, an app, "Record and duplicate" could, with one button, and "all at the same time": - begin recording - enable ad-hoc wireless - compress the recording to a size "suitable for broadcast to ad-hoc neighbours" - work out (/ roughly calc) max simultaneous incoming streams this device can support ("record my peers" to back up their streams) - preference and/or randomize if too many simultaneous "incoming backup streams" - build a list of peers - start sending my stream to some number of peers ("for backup") - if extra bandwidth available, forward streams i.e. act as a distance bridge/ repeater (this may need nodes, as in/like the bittorrent protocol) to share information about peers they are aware of (e.g. node closeness based on signal strength) With such an 'on-demand' app, The Authorities may have a harder time getting rid of "problematic" recordings. If that became a real and ongoing probem for the deep state swamp, The Authorities would then lean on Google to "do more evil" and auto remove or disable the app during relevant times and locations - which would be useful for showing folks they do not own their phones... You're on the same page as me here. I like your design and I'm pretty sure we can solve the google problem separately as you recommended on the thread I cried to you on. I guess I like sticking to thread topics to organize things, dunno. Would you be interested in working on such an app? References 1. mailto:zen@freedbms.net 2. mailto:punks@tfwno.gf 3. mailto:gmkarl@gmail.com