Perhaps we'll eventually have batteries for utilities, automobiles and
   aircraft which "refuel", rather than recharge in place, using
   electrolyte replacement.
   See for
   example, [1]https://energypost.eu/can-vanadium-flow-batteries-beat-li-
   ion-for-utility-scale-storage/

   On Thu, Nov 7, 2019, 9:39 PM grarpamp <[2]grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

     > We cannot support a world population of billions without large
     amounts
     > of energy.
     > We could in fact produce the required energy without carbon
     emissions
     > What green energy projects
     [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_energy
     [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy
     [5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_conservation
     [6]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_generation
     [7]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium
     [8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power
     Nextgen #OpenSource #OpenAudit nuclear energy
     is clean and safe baseload until every rooftop is solar.
     Nuclear fuel is obviously limited supply.
     [9]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydropower
     Hydro recycles itself, but fucks with water systems.
     [10]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power
     Geothermal is generally unlimited, but not very powerful.
     [11]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power
     [12]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power
     Solar and wind power, are useful for offgrid cypherpunks
     venturing energy independence.
     [13]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_battery
     [14]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage
     [15]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_battery
     Various storage systems for punks.
     [16]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen
     Hydrogen is interesting closed loop between
     solar electric cracking, gaseous fuel usage, and water.
     > CO2
     Likely more problematic than strictly CO2 alone, likely for decades
     past and some to come, is all the toxic pollution products and
     byproducts,
     destruction wastelands, industrial, farming, vehicle runoff,
     nanoparticles,
     etc mentioned before.
     [17]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_fuel
     [18]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline
     [19]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane
     [20]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas
     [21]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propane
     Many LNG (Methane) / LPG etc gas combust relatively
     cleanly to CO2 and H2O, but not under some non-ideal
     combustion cycles that are in use today. Production
     processing is not exactly clean or efficient either.
     > higher energy prices
     > seize the means of production, and most of them want to shake down
     the
     > energy grid.
     Ever notice how, even though you've been more or less forced
     to migrate from incandescent watts and even CFL and CPU watts,
     for LED and 7nm watts... your total electric bill has actually
     increased ever since incandescent was cut out of the market.
     > People want to continue traveling around
     Walk and sailboat, bitch.
     Don't forget your papers, please.
     [22]https://papersplease.org/
     > invariably shuts down people
     > If warmists believed a word of their own bullshit, green energy
     projects
     > would produce useful energy, instead of superior holiness.
     Must be decentralized.
     > lifestyles
     Tooling around in your yuppie jackass SUV smokin endo
     and buying up all the bullshit at yet another mall... is not
     a lifestyle, it's a pointless waste. Die already.
     > frequently get blackouts and brownouts
     Same as always really.

References

   1. https://energypost.eu/can-vanadium-flow-batteries-beat-li-ion-for-utility-scale-storage/
   2. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com
   3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_energy
   4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy
   5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_conservation
   6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_generation
   7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium
   8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power
   9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydropower
  10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_power
  11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power
  12. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power
  13. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_battery
  14. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage
  15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_battery
  16. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen
  17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_fuel
  18. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline
  19. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane
  20. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas
  21. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propane
  22. https://papersplease.org/